Whoa! Near miss!

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  1. JesseJames macrumors 6502a

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    Nah, it's most likely an effect of the telephoto lens compressing distance.

    Still pretty wild photo.

    http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=652327&TopOfYest=yes

    Here's another one.

    First Officer: "Uh Captain? Maybe you had one too many at the sky-bar?"

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    This website is AWESOME man. A feast for the aviation buff. God I love the internet.
     
  2. stoid macrumors 601

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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just a telephoto lens. The larger craft is far larger than it looks in that picture. Look at the cockpit sizes, I'm almost certain that both planes should have cockpit windows very close to the same size. However, in this image the Lufthansa jet has a noticeably smaller cockpit.

    Still though, they are rather close, maybe even closer than they should be. I'm certain that passengers on each vessel could see the other plane, and in all my flying experience, that has never happened.
     
  3. Doctor Q Administrator

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    Naw, it's just the newest sport: tandem piloting.
     
  4. bubbamac macrumors 6502

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    The runways at SFO are very close - this is not an unusual approach there - except for the size of the aircraft.
     
  5. Royal Pineapple macrumors 65816

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    Wouldn't that be a near hit?
    a collision would be a near miss.

    *CRASH* Look, they nearly missed
     
  6. cslewis macrumors 6502a

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    Wow, that must suck to be in one of the planes, not sure if you will collide with another plane in mid-air moving at hundreds of MPH.
     
  7. JesseJames thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Figure of speech. Don't want to get into semantics. ;)
     
  8. Daveman Deluxe macrumors 68000

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    These issues of perspective have nothing to do with the focal length of the lens. The airplanes would appear the same distance from each other whether the photo was taken with a 50mm lens or a 1200mm lens. It has to do with the distance from the lens to the subject, not the focal length of the lens--it's just that at great distances, people tend to use longer lenses.
     
  9. wordmunger macrumors 603

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    I think you're right. Also, if it really was a "near miss" the wing of the Lufthansa jet would be poking through the American jet, not completely behind it, as it appears in the picture.

    Daveman Deluxe--technically, you're right, but the point is, the photographer must have been at a great distance from the planes, and thus would have had to use a very high-powered lens.
     
  10. OutThere macrumors 603

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    It's most definitely "Synchronized Flying", proposed for the 2008 olympics.
     
  11. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    I once someone use a 1' lens to try and take a picture of a leopard 3' away.
     
  12. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    So these guys are a distance apart, but the lens makes them appear closer? What?

    Anyway, I always thought that if 2 planes touched, both planes would probably fall apart on contact as they're both going so fast and carrying a lot of energy and momentum. And its not like they're using super thick sheets of metal on the outside, you know?
     
  13. Daveman Deluxe macrumors 68000

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    I said "tend to". I've done similar things with long lenses at short distances.
     
  14. comictimes macrumors 6502a

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    looking at the cockpit window sizes, yeah, they're definitely further from each other than they appear, but it seems that they're still pretty close! at least closer than they should be....
     
  15. OutThere macrumors 603

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    I've used a lens that was 10 inches long (physical size) to take a picture of a flower that was like a foot away. The lens had a macro feature so that I could get really really close in.
     
  16. wdlove macrumors P6

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    It looks just like one of those great shots of perspective. Makes for a great discussion. It could also be a photoshop job.
     
  17. MrMacMan macrumors 604

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    Nah, that is quite legit.

    And they are infact very close to eachother.
     
  18. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    They are relatively close - but it is a case of a telephoto lens and position. Also, if you notice, the 747's wing is behind the other plane....so they're not right on top of each other.

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  19. bubbamac macrumors 6502

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    OK, more information. The runways at SFO that these guys are using are about 500' apart (don't have access to better info at this time) so that's probably about how far apart the airplanes are.

    Keep in mind that the 747 has a wingspan in excess of 200' - and the 757 in the foreground isn't a small airplane when there's not a 747 sitting next to it.

    The arrivals to these runways include a fairly gradual narrowing of the approaches - the 747 is the one that was "moving closer," the 757 is the one that stays on the runway centerline.

    I've been inside the airplane doing this once, it's pretty cool, actually. It's very stable (nobody's doing any wild turns), and well talked about/briefed way before it's flown, because it is unusual. Quite safe.
     
  20. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    The guy had his window down and was scanning the horizon for a leopard we pointed towards. He didn't realize it was in the ditch next to the road...

    :)

    Never seen a window go up that fast before or since.
     
  21. G5orbust macrumors 65816

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    Whoa... crazy man! That takes some skilled piloting. Thank God they dont let our pilots fly drunk!
     
  22. wdlove macrumors P6

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    It is very possible that they were Air Force trained pilots. That they learned on a jet fighter. In that type of flying they need to learn precision in formation. Still an amazing shot by the photographer. That would definitely get pilots excited. Though it may not be so comforting to the general flying public. :D
     
  23. homerjward macrumors 68030

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    that guy's crazy. not cause of the lens but cause of the leopard 3' away lol
     
  24. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    The guy didn't realize it was 3' away. We were sitting on the far side of the road from it after watching the thing cross. A car came from the other direction and sat right next to the leopard. They rolled down a window asked what we looking at and we said leopard and point. Down went then window out came the camera. He was scanning the horizon and worked his way down to see it right there. Close enough to pet. (Not that anyone was stupid enough to want to
     

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