Why America is Fat.

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  1. coopdog macrumors 6502a

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    It has been proven that America's love of fast food is a major factor in America's fatness among other things. I just saw a McDonalds ad that said, "1 out of 7 people start their day with McDonalds." So if 1 out of 7 of the people in the US eats breakfast at McDonalds alone. I now know why there is obesity problem in the US. ..
    I haven't eaten at a fast food burger place for at least 3 years.

    I look at the calorie level, fat serving size and all the other stuff on just about everything I eat.

    For people who eat fast food a lot maybe all 3 meal times. It's very hard to get the nutrition facts. Most places have them inside in some obscure place.

    Well if they had a surgeon generals warning like the ones on cigarettes. That says that you should only have so many grams of fat and calories a day. Something like that but better and shouldn't drink soda and eat fast food more than 1 day a week, or something.

    Also print the nutrition facts for the food on the actual food, print it on the fries, drink cups, everything.

    Hopefully people would be drinking their 1 gallon big gulp and realize that, “Hey I'm getting my daily allowance for calories for the day!”


    I know know... Sounded good when I thought of it.
     
  2. rainman::|:| macrumors 603

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    true, but not exactly new news.

    america, imho, seems perfectly content being obese as a nation. They'll come around, or heart disease will strike, either way it won't last forever... Cultures go through phases in things like this.

    i also highly suggest anyone with a weight problem try therapy, if diet and exercise fail. It's a lot easier on your body than those ephedra and ephedra-like diet pills... and quite often, overeating is psychological.

    Remember there are probably a hundred reasons that contribute to obesity, together they make up why america is fat...

    pnw
     
  3. jbomber macrumors 6502a

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    America is fat, because there's too much food.... and everyone wants it faster, bigger, and more buttery.:p
     
  4. MrMacMan macrumors 604

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    Nah, its america wants the value.

    Look when you get this SUPER large for only like what 40 cents more for double the drink, people go for that, it may make them fatter, but its a MUCH better value.

    Personally if I must go I go for a medium, thats enough cals for lunch and dinner right there.
     
  5. Flowbee macrumors 68030

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    Also, people have become so focused on reducing 'fat' in thier diets, that they forget to keep track of the calories they're consuming. Eating an entire box of 'low-fat' cookies won't help us lose weight.

    And the, of course, there's sitting at the computer all day...
     
  6. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Re: Fast food, stop blaming fast food.

    Not really fast food but portion control has been lost on American plates, the plate survey of American restraunts had the average plate size alone goin up quite a bit in the last 20 years.

    Sort of funny that Maytag line about the people that bring their plates in to see if they'll fit in the dishwashers they're looking at.

    Along with this poor portion control comes calories, which is the major problem.

    The American public is sucking down an enormous amount of calories per day, so it's no surprise that American's have enourmous asses.

    An this "diet food" and "healthy food" spiel is meaningless if American's are eating more of it, and more sugars are being substituted for fats (for flavor) so high calories.

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    In other words, fast food is easy to point at as the cause. But the meals are bigger today than ever.

    People would laugh at you if you handed them the original TV diner, and immediately ask for the rest of the meal.
     
  7. mac15 macrumors 68040

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    I hear you have no small meals at mcdonalds, we have them in Australia. Its either medium, large and american fatass size. No wonder people are huge
     
  8. jbomber macrumors 6502a

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    And you guys don't have lite beer.No wonder people are always drunk. Now who's a loser? Hahahaha... oh wait.... :rolleyes: :) :D
     
  9. Datazoid macrumors regular

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    Well, according to your own quote, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY "SMALL" MEALS EITHER!!! Medium, Large, and Super [american fatass] Size ARE NOT SMALL! And, coincidentally, we have the exact same sizes. Imagine that! Moreover, I (amongst others, I'm sure) find that McDonald's meals are actually quite small in comparison to many other fast food chains. Locally (California) these include places like Jack In The Box and Carl's Jr, whose meal sizes (specifically, their burgers) far exceed McDonald's.

    [sarcasm]But it makes me feel good inside that Americans aren't the only people who are "ignorant" of countries outside their own, as is said quite often by people outside the US (trust me, I have heard this comment (in a general context, not about me personally) quite often while chatting with people from other nations). [/sarcasm]

    [mod edit] personal attacks will get you banned, try and keep it clean!
     
  10. scem0 macrumors 604

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    I think being fat has less to do with what you eat and more to do with how much you exercise.

    But I think the main factor in your weight and size is your metabolism. I know a bunch of people who could eat as much as they wanted and would NEVER get fat, even if they didn't exercise.

    Being fat in my opinion is controlled (in order) by:
    1) genetics
    2) metabolism (kind of the same thing as genetics)
    3) exercise
    4) how much you eat
    5) what you eat.

    scem0
     
  11. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    McDonalds is bad about the food because you can get a Extra Value Meal for about the price of just two of the items separately. So if just want a BigMac and a coke its cheaper to get the fries too....

    Personally, I don't eat there. I think the last time I went was well over a year ago, and that on a road trip and I needed something for breakfast.....

    D
     
  12. evoluzione macrumors 68020

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    hahaha. yeah man, when i were living back home in england, you never saw beers like bud, and mos' def' not bud lite etc.

    as for this small size thing, when i were growing up, the smallest size of fries here, was what we had as our largest size in england. the small came in a li'l paper wrapper, somewhat like the hash brown envelope but a tad bigger.

    it amazes me though how damn expensive maccy d's is (yeah we say maccy, not mickey, bloody commercialism heh ;) ) especially in nyc, and it's sooo slooow too, fast food??? er, no i don't think so. having said that, the one in harlem on 125th and broadway is awesome, they even have flat panel lcds above the counters instead of the regular menus.

    oh, and i wish maccy d's would be more adventurous over here, i remember when we had things like spring rolls, samosas, chicken korma burgers etc there a while back, awesome.

    i actually had brekky there the other morning, of course the drive through window girl messed up the order, why can't they get anything right!? their coffee is rank, oh my word it is soooo bad, but the hash browns, mmmmmm, nice n greasy, just how us brits like it haha
     
  13. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    I think a lot of the reason is the attitude many people in this country have combined with the "convenience" of getting cheap, "fast" food in a high paced society.

    Emphasis on physical fitness isn't high enough, despite the pressure to look perfect. It takes a lot of motivation for a person to keep up a physically active life I feel, and I honestly feel many people just don't bother because they don't feel like it. Not to say that everyone is like this, as I know there are cases where it's not a choice...but rather a circumstance.

    As for food, we're a really unhealthy country. Fast food is available everywhere u look, and it's much easier for a person to "grab something on the run" than it is to prepare a meal & bring it along. Poor food quality leads to cheap prices, which makes it easier to justify spending the cash.

    I think, overall, it's just how it's gotten to be. We overindulge a lot in this country, and not just with food.

    I feel like I'm ranting, so I'll shut it for now. ;)
     
  14. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Ha, but its all true - its too easy to eat and be lazy - not having to worry about where our next meal comes from.

    It takes an effort to eat better, my wife and I try as much as possible, yet we have a few places that we like to go because the food is really good and cheap.

    We eat at home more than we eat out, which is good. But eating in doesn't guarantee healthy meals. When I was growing up we never had soda in the house - now its a staple in almost every home in America. Empty calories and sugar, blah!

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  15. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    Ah...the only soda I'll drink is a diet coke every now & then. However, the sugar substitute in it sparks a completely different topic of discussion/concern. ;)

    I grew up on homecooked meals, mainly because it's all we could afford at the time. As my mom got older, some health issues set in and it caused us to adapt to a lower fat/healthier diet.

    I don't even eat fast food...I won't eat it...Subway is it. After high school, when I was working a retail job and in caught up in the "where are we eating today" bit, I ended up putting on 30lbs. Unhealthy eating, combined with a lack of exercise and going out drinking beer 4 times a week contributed to it all. About 5 years ago, I decided I wasn't happy with myself so I made some changes.

    I'm really glad I did though, I feel like I've developed good habits that will I know will benefit me in the future. :)
     
  16. tom.96 macrumors regular

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    butter

    One thing that bothers me is that no one eats real butter anymore. WHY? It is so nice and everyone eats margerine!! There is Nothing like a nice piece of butter!! I think this whole health thing has been taken too far. Everything in moderation seems good
     
  17. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Re: butter

    Exactly - butter once in a while is fine. Cooking with it gives you a great taste that you can't get from anything else. Its just those things that use sticks of butter that are the problem. One reason restaurant food can be so tasty and so bad for you. :D

    D
     
  18. tom.96 macrumors regular

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    Re: Re: butter

    Totally agree! Mushrooms fried in butter... bacon fried in butter. Fried bread! You can't beat a traditional english fried breakfast for taste or fat! Or - just on toast, some nice new zealand butter ohh its like heaven
     
  19. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    A couple big steak houses actually marinate their steaks in butter and cook them in butter.....that to me is too much, if you're going to do a steak, put it on the grill :D

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  20. sketchy macrumors regular

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    I think the main problem si portion control, A few others mentioned this earlier. people are used to going to restaurants and getting HUGE plates of food. Going to fast food places and getting value sized, going to the sleven and getting super big gulps and king size candy bars, going to Dari-queen and getting a large blizzard... etc etc

    Then when they do sit down for a home cooked meal they expect a huge plate of food, then tend to eat it in less then 15 minuets.

    Most people do not enjoy their food, they chew a few time and swallow. I don't know the exact number, but after like 23 minutes of eating the body starts to throw full signals. Most people do not see these because they are done before the time has elapsed.

    My wife finishes 5 to 10 min before me when we eat, I like to savor my food, taste what I put into it, and actually enjoy the act of eating. I tend to leave food on my plate after every meal, and am a very slow eater. But I gain satisfaction from eating, and am rarely bloated after a meal.

    and you don't have to finish everything.
     
  21. tom.96 macrumors regular

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    steak in butter? It makes me want to move to the USA right now. I don't think anywhere in my town does that
     
  22. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    http://www.mortons.com/website/index.html

    Damn tasty, but way too much food. You almost always have to take home leftovers.

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  23. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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  24. crackpip macrumors regular

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    The real source of obesity, imo

    I think the real source of obesity is corporate america. Statistics show that America as a country puts in more hours than ever before, averaging almost 2000 hours a year. This is more than almost any other industrialized country (Korea and the Czech republic work more, iirc). Also the number of people who are working more than 50, 60, 80 hours/week, etc. has increased greatly. Keep in mind that many people are salary workers and therefore don't get overtime. The problem is that the American work force is tired.

    Who feels like exercising when you've just spent a 12hour day at work, maybe 1.5 hours total in commuting, stress makes it difficult to sleep properly, and you have a family to spend time with? Is it any wonder that people don't feel like cooking at home, spending more time exercising away from their families?

    As an example my mother is in upper level management at the headquarters of a large corporation. She is usually sitting at her desk by 5am, and works until 5 or 6pm. She's often asleep by 8:30pm. She will also dial into her network and work during the weekends, and she sells most of her vacation time back to the company. She's been working like this for at least 15 years now maybe more like 20.

    People do find time to exercise and eat more healthy foods, but at the same time with work demands are increasing, it becomes more of a challenge to juggle our increasing filled schedules.

    crackpip
     
  25. mac15 macrumors 68040

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    No light beer, we have light beer here and were not fatass yanks :D ( no offense to anyone else bar this guy)

    Please runoff and enjoy your 2litre maccas cokes
     

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