why doesnt Apple use thosse antiglare screens?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by starstreak, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. starstreak macrumors 6502

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    I noticed that Apple is improving the screens with the new macbooks with higher resolution and better brightness.
    When are they going to add antiglare? not so much for the antiglare but for the clarity. I noticed that compaired to all the new notebooks coming out, that while apple screens have the higher resolution, the text and "details" are washed out.
     
  2. thegreatluke macrumors 6502a

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    On what?

    On my 1.83 MBP, I've never had glare. No problems at all.

    On the other hand, look at Dell's laptops. They have these new "shiny" screens that look very nice, but they glare like you just slapped it.
     
  3. Josias macrumors 68000

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    I hate that layer of silicone/plastic they put on screens. It's easy to scratch and gets greased up by nacho fingers:D , and makes the screen look no better. It's actually destroys the viewing angle completely. No anti-glare!:cool:
     
  4. m-dogg macrumors 65816

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    Ugh - Those are not good - I was looking at those in Best Buy recently and I'm very glad Macs don't use them...
     
  5. treblah macrumors 65816

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    Word.

    Has the OP ever seen/used one of the Anti-glare screens in anything other than artificial light? How you say? Ah yes, useable piece of garbage.
     
  6. Josias macrumors 68000

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    Amen! Stupid people in Denmark get so attracted as lognas someone writes crystal britw view super cool TFT screen, but they never realize it's just some sort of plastic, that actually fecks up the screen in many ways:p

    Apple is Gangsta!:cool:
     
  7. dejo Moderator

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    Apple's laptops ARE anti-glare! All those others are PRO-glare. They reflect everything under the sun. The reason things look "washed out" as you describe it is because there is anti-glare. Wasn't anti-glare supposed to be good for you? What happened?
     
  8. Wellander macrumors regular

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    Hi,
    The only macs that will maybe need them is the emacs.
    And I do not think that the schools will want to spend alot of money on those.
     
  9. Josias macrumors 68000

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    oh, i mixed somethin' up. i thought antiglare was some silicone layer they usually call "crystal brite view", but does it have another real name?:confused: :p
     
  10. starstreak thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Lets not get rosey colored glasses here. As I mentioned (at least I think I did) it wasn't so much for the antiglare (as you pointed out, that part of it is bad) but it does look so much nicer.
    I will put up my Dell XPS2 screen against any apple. Its brighter,clearer than the apple.
    Yes I know the glare is bad on those but it looks soo much nicer. Blacks are darker,contrast is still better on the dell screen. So I thought it was just the dells. I went to Compusa and they had the apple screen next to the other laptops. You can see a difference.

    I'm not here to start an argument with apple users, but seriously I asked other people there what they thought of the apple macbook screen vs the acer/HP screens that were there. Besides the mirror finish, everybody thought the apple looked washed out or "not as clear"
     
  11. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    Anti-glare? Those things have worse glare. They do look pretty but they're difficult to use, in my opinion. I suppose that Apple's displays could use more contrast but they're hardly horrible.
     
  12. MUCKYFINGERS macrumors 6502a

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    this is steve job's reality distortion field at its finest.

    apple displays aren't antiglare, and they arne't the greatest in the world.

    yeah... nerds are lame (not you)
     
  13. exeterbohemian macrumors regular

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    the 'washed out' effect which seems to have been so prevalently noticed on apple lcd displays is quite easily remedied by calibrating the display. i did this on my powerbook almost immediately after i purchased it, and compared to most any other laptop display i've seen, it looks leagues better. as far as those glossy mirror-coated displays are concerned, my father has one on his sony laptop, and i must admit it is atrocious. i mean, the colors certainly seem brighter and more resilient, but with any amount of ambient light present, the glare becomes almost unbearable.
     
  14. starstreak thread starter macrumors 6502

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    ok lets forget the words antiglare. EVERYBODY seems hung up on that.

    Apple has crappy screens. For such a great laptop, and it really is...I believe now over 80% of other manufactures have better screens. If you IGNORE the glare effect of the other laptops the screens are still brighter, clearer and vibrant. Apple really needs to get another manufacturer.
     
  15. eva01 macrumors 601

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    how the hell can you ignore the glare effect? I get headaches and would probably die from other manufacturers displays. Seriously if you don't know my medical history you don't want to my head feels like it wants to explode. And i was looking at a friends Dell with the Xbrite screen or whatever it is and had to take 3 fioricets 10 minutes after looking at it for that amount of time.

    I love my powerbooks display.
     
  16. steve_hill4 macrumors 68000

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    Right, I'll add my 2¢ to this one since I currently sell computer displays and laptops. I never have liked the screens that Sony and others sell that much. Sure they look nice in stores, but reflect evrything under the sun, (no pun intended). I have my MBP set to 25% brightness most of the time. I turn it up to 100% and it burns my eyes as I am not used to it, but it doesn't look washed out.

    Now I am not saying the screens Apple use for their laptops are perfect, but they are better than most are overall. The viewing angle can let it down, but it still is okay at quite an angle, so compared to others, it is workable all over.

    Also, the top end displays from most manufacturers use similar coatings/panels and brightness levels to Apple's displays. Sony release their x-black technology looks good most of the time, but for large displays needed in Graphic Design, they look awful.

    I guess if Apple were into CTOs to a high level, we could end any discussion like this.
     
  17. dejo Moderator

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    Well, you're entitled to your opinion...
     
  18. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    Yes, you're not here to start an argument but you make interesting statements.

    You can't ignore the glare unless there aren't any lights on in the room.

    I wanted one of the 14 inch widescreen machines but in 10 minutes of playing with it, I couldn't deal with it anymore.

    Apple displays almost always have higher density displays than others. I've not found a problem editing photos in the field on my PowerBook but with those specially-coated displays, I doubt I'd get much work done.
     
  19. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Apple don't use anti-glare screen's because they're reflective, one of my friends has one, they are no good for anything, they even seem to reflect artificial light, i hate to think what they'd be like in sunlight, they are completely a gimmick, if you like antiglare screen's buy a Dell laptop i'm sure you'll enjoy it.

    However to be fair to dell their screen's generally have a higher resolution than Apple laptops as OS X doesn't have resolution independant display (unlike windows.)
     
  20. starstreak thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Glare is not that bad. Sure it's there, but I would rather live with that than with the blurry text and washed out colors.

    eva01- I''m amazed your head dont explode reading the words on your screen. That's one of the reasons why I sold my 12in noteboook.

    I was going to buy the macbook pro with the higher resolution and "brighter" screen, but even that seemed hard to read. Moving your head a few inches left or right is enough to make the sides dimmer. As bad as those sub $1k notebooks. Even on full brightness its dimmer than most of the 15in notebooks were still brighter and the whites were "whiter".

    Steve- alot of people say the same thing you say. That they like the brightness at 25%. I find that unusable. I mean people who have PC notebooks say that too. But I yet to find one of them in person. Every place I goto had both pc and macs on full brightness. Granted its a store and you would need it turned up. But to use your mac at 25% I can then add in people's arguments about the antiglare. Because with your room that dark, you wouldnt have glare.

    Eraser- that wasnt my point (buying a pc laptop), I was just asking if anybody knows if apple was going to change the screens. and why they use such "junk" ones in my opinon.
     
  21. Peyton macrumors 68000

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    I have a 12" pb and think its fine. There is no 'glare' to speak of, my complaint is it isn't bright enough. Esp. in sunny conditions.
     
  22. plinkoman macrumors 65816

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    i can understand if you think another screen is better, but how on earth can you call them junk? [​IMG]

    of all the displays i've used in my life, this is the best/clearest/sharpest/easiest to read of all of them. they may not be the best, as there are some brighter ones, some with a higher contrast ratio, smaller refresh rate etc... but to call them junk???
     
  23. calebjohnston macrumors 68000

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    I like the 12" PB screen, too. Wouldn't mind it being a bit brighter though -- tends to look a little 'stale' sometimes.
     
  24. generik macrumors 601

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    Oh please stop exaggerating, even if you gorge your eyeballs out with a soup spoon you'd probably live to tell the tale. Takes huge amount of balls to inflict it on yourself though.

    I really hate it when people try to form legitimate fair and unbiased arguments when it is in fact tainted by their own "love" of Apple. Geez. That said I do hate the glazed "anti glare" screens, but I really do think Apple need to spend more of that $2000 we pay into each laptop and source for a better panel, it has nothing to do with the glazing, those are cheap panels to start with!
     
  25. eva01 macrumors 601

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    Once again you don't know my medical history, i have been put in the hospital multiple times with an unknown disease. So please don't comment if you don't know my history.

    Thank-you

    PS it may be a bit of an exaggeration, but not much :p ;)
     

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