why is everyone picking gocyrus

Discussion in 'General Mac Discussion' started by jefhatfield, Mar 3, 2002.

  1. jefhatfield Retired

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    so what if gocyrus is more into pcs?

    i am personally more into macs but i make my living fixing pcs, pc networks, and i am a graduate student, college student, and instrucor in the area of pcs

    i have also used macs since the beginning and apple machines since the 70s and it's no big deal that gocyrus is a pc guy

    ...many of my fellow teachers and students are into pcs for one reason or another, but having seen both machines for over two decades, macs are definitely superior, but i don't expect anyone on these forums to have seen as much as i have seen in this field

    i know of really great techies with phd's who like pcs and have never once touched a mac...it certainly does not make them stupid or ignorant

    macs are 4.5 percent of the market and there are many people, including techies and techie educators, who never see the greatness of the mac, which i believe is their simplicity and stable operating system

    i was an apple field tech and a compaq and dell field tech in the field, and i have to admit, i never had to go on an apple call once in six months...it was mostly fixing dells and compaqs...i think that says something

    but it literally took me twenty five years to truly say that on "all" accounts for a basic home user, with certifications, experience, and two degrees, to really say "confidently" that macs are better bar none

    so for some newbie mac fanatic (as spikey would call them) with no scope who likes macs to cut down gocyrus is ridiculous, unless that critisizer has some dues paid...they are only right about thinking that macs are better by conjecture and by guessing

    so before anyone cuts down gocyrus' choices in computers, put at least ten years of experience and some "basic" computer education (degrees and or certifications) under their wings before they consider gocyrus some ignoramous who blows bill gates for sustinence

    i know i will take heat from the zealots for this essay...well, jefhatfield is back with something to piss off the ignorants
     
  2. oldMac macrumors 6502a

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    i agree

    Mostly.

    Except for that part about certifications. Not to fan any potential flames, but an MCSE doesn't count. :)
     
  3. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    now I know I am guilty of this as well....

    but I think the reason nobody likes him much is because he seems to go out of his way to rain on everybody's parade around here...

    we're all devoted Mac users here and we all know that as Mac fans we are extremely loyal to our brand....but it honestly comes off as offending to most I imagine to be on a Mac rumors website and have some guy constantly shoot down the validity of our product....

    does that make any sense or should I have some coffee and rewrite that? ;)
     
  4. jefhatfield thread starter Retired

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    that's the crazy thing about certifications and computer science degrees

    i still think it counts for experience and judging others' statements, but the average degree in cs or certification is like a head of lettuce on a shelf, it goes bad

    a friend of mine got his master's from a local university in programming in a, b, and c languages and c++ had not come along yet, neither had any of the other newer more useful languages

    when i took my first class, it was manually reading punch cards, dealing with vacuum tubes, and working commands on a pre-dos version of a disk operating system language (don't ask)

    it used to take a BA in math to be a computer technician because processors, the size of rooms in rural northern california in the 70s, had no math co-processors, so techies, with math degrees, had to to the rest

    all of the room size multi million dollar computers in my half of the state put together did not equal a regular e-machines pentium according a to a friend who worked with the computers at nasa during apollo 11 (that's where neil armstrong was the first man on the moon before most of you posters were born)

    ironically, apollo 13, due to the movie with the incomparble tom hanks, is the one people seem to recite more, due to hollywood's great infuleunce on the young

    anyone out there remember alan shepard or yuri gregarin? OK, i will stop before i reveal my age...i will tell you this, i get viagra ads once a week! ;-)
     
  5. jefhatfield thread starter Retired

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    Re: Re: why is everyone picking gocyrus

    and i say back to my esteemed engineer in the biz, it wasn't to you i wrote this post, as you should know...it is that there are pc haters who use macs without knowwing what they are talking about and i know you should know better that i was not referring to you

    some things don't take ten years of experience...like masturbating...once you do it, you are an expert (i know, a bad analogy but it gets to the point)...but really comparing a modern day pc to a mac does take a long time to figure out
     
  6. oldMac macrumors 6502a

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    Thread disappearance...

    Whoa...
    What just happened to that guy's posts?

    Half of this thread just disappeared. Arn?
     
  7. arn macrumors god

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    Re: Thread disappearance...

    I didn't touch 'em....

    arn
     
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  9. AlphaTech macrumors 601

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    The reason I dislike gocyrus so much is his contant posting of peecee ads here. Tooting his horn about some peecee laptop or desktop or whatever that has an xMHz processor or something of that nature. I can't count how many posts he has made that sound like peecee ads here. THIS is NOT the place for that kind of cr@p.

    I have found that the MCSE certifications don't mean much of anything in the real world. Before you start on that, I AM a tech in the REAL world. I have been doing that 100% for over two years at my current position. I was a lab tech at college for about three years (assisting the professor in Mac classes for Mac applications). I have been on computers for over 23 years total, starting off on a peecee running ms-dos of all things back in '78. I was on peecee's until 1988 when I went to college and had my eyes opened to the Mac. I wanted one of my own pretty much right away. It took me many years before I could purchase one, but that was the first system I purchased on my own. I have owned several laptops (all Mac) as well as a 604e based tower and now a G4 tower.

    I know both platforms, since I have to support peecee users at work as well as Mac. There are approximately 30 peecee's and 250-270 Mac's where I work. I have built more then a few peecee's in my days, since I wanted to learn about them in order to support them. There are a ton more problems with peecee hardware compared to the Mac. You can get all kinds of hardware conflicts that will cause the OS to either not run, be incredibly unstable, or many other problems.

    In every position that I have held since college I have been the one to maintain the computers. If nothing else, in the department that I was in.

    I was hired where I am now because of my background in both design and my computer knowledge. I know, and understand, the user's frustrations, since I experienced many of them myself at one time or another.
     
  10. IndyGopher macrumors 6502a

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    Am I showing my age if I correct the spelling of Yuri Gagarin?

    Ok, so I'm not THAT old.. (although I was around for the moon landing) my first computer was a Sinclair ZX-80 (the kit one, not the ZX-81 that came prebuilt and turned into the Timex-Sinclair 1000) and the second was a CPM-based Heathkit. I have a few certifications, both in PC's and in networks, but I think the feelings about GoCyrus have nothing to do with computer experience.. they're based on simple social propriety. You don't pass out PLO propaganda at a Bar Mitzvah without expecting to start some grief.
     
  11. IndyGopher macrumors 6502a

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    Ummm... Microsoft DOS 1.0 was released in August of 1981, the same year the IBM PC was released.
     
  12. AlphaTech macrumors 601

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    All I remember is it was the first affordable home computer. It was running some kind of dos type thing and it was a Toshiba T-100. I think it cost more then a G4 DP1GHz does today.

    I seem to remember it coming with some version of basic that I started playing with right away. You had to load everything with 5-1/4" floppies which was horrid.

    If you are going to nit pick on the operating system because I can't remember EXACT details from that far back there is something wrong.
     
  13. Vilacr macrumors regular

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    I am about to say and do something that may get most of you very upset. I am getting rid of my macs and switching to only pc's. Why? Unlike the rest of you here my macs are very unstable and crash often. I have an ibook 500 mhz and Tibook 550 mhz. My dell inspiron has yet to crash and runs circles around my macs in everyday tasks. I am an engineer and run cad programs often. Here the inspiron destroys the tibook. Say what you wish but I am being honest and realistic. I have used macs for years and started using pc's more recently. Contrary to what I have read here the pc world isn't as bad as you guys often make it out to be. I am making the switch and will never buy another mac. The machines are pretty and the buck stops there. I need more than a pretty machine, I need one that works and does exactly what need it to do.
     
  14. AlphaTech macrumors 601

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    Well, Vilacr, I have yet to have OS X crash in all the months I have been running it. I can't say the same about windowz. Also, good luck in repairing your peecee WHEN the OS goes bad, not if, when. Also, if you install orfice, and it gets messed even a bit, good luck in repairing it. Most of the time (about 90% or more) you have to wipe the system and start fresh. You MIGHT get lucky, but don't count on it.

    In two plus years of supporting over 250 Mac systems, I have yet to have my utility set NOT fix a problem. If push comes to shove, I can install a fresh OS on top of the one there in under 10 minutes and the user will be back up and running.

    When was the last time you ran any utility on your Mac systems?? If you have the utilies, I hope to hell you didn't install them onto the computer. ALWAYS run them off of a cd that you boot from. Have you bothered to have anyone that repairs Mac systems even look at yours???? Are you sure that you are not trying to run software that just isn't compatible??? Have you bothered to update the OS or anything else since you got the Mac's? Most issues can be solved with either software updates, or running utilities. I have three that I use, but I don't expect everyone to have those. You should have some kind of full utility set, not a slimmed down version.
     
  15. buffsldr macrumors 6502a

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    Yo, Vilcar...
    You must be one heck of an "engineer" if you just started using peecees recently. I too am an engineer and I run ProE (that is a $14,000 CAD program) on a peecee. I find it hard to believe that you have been running cad on a mac all these years. And yes I know there are cad programs for mac, but in mechanical engineering, the standards are ProE, AutoCad, SolidWorks, and other peecee based cad stuff. What kind of engineer are you?

    Oh, and by the way, I am not upset. If you prefer using SPARC Unix boxes that's fine with me. If you like Honey Nut Cheerios better than CHEX, I dont care. This is MacRumors.com. If you choose to use something else, more power to you, but feel free to keep it to yourself.

    Whatever your opinion of macs is doesnt matter to me. I just hope you are happy.
     
  16. krossfyter macrumors 601

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    vilcar....


    its like your saying.. I have been driving porsches most of my life and because I havent had the normal maintenance done on one its having trouble running right.... so Im going to get a saturn because I have test drove it and it runs better then my porsche (that hasnt been serviced).



    is this not the case?

    by the way...your an engineer....macs are not the type of puters for engineers... at least i dont think so.
     
  17. jefhatfield thread starter Retired

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    i live in monterey county california and used to live near a business called digital research and the whole dos thing goes back way before ms-dos

    ...if you dig deep enough into the history of dos, you will see that there is this little thief named bill gates, a famous plane ride, a bar fight which ended in a death, and a famous draft dodger who worked at the naval postgraduate school

    i befriended the girlfriend of the inventor of dos and if you want to hear her version of the story, email me off list (i believe much of the history books are bunk trying to protect certain people in new mexico, seattle and monterey, CA) unicorn@mbay.net

    ...but this post is certainly not for macrumors...but i think gocyrus is fine even though i don't always agree with him/her
     
  18. Hemingray macrumors 68030

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    Hey Vilacr, I'll gladly take those macs of yours...
     
  19. mymemory macrumors 68020

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    Man, for me gocyrus is even funny, fool all of you that falls in to his game over and over. I didn't realize he was around until you start to complain about him.

    Arn, now you put every body paranoic about deleting posts (hehehehe).
     

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