Why is microsoft so evil...?

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  1. XIII macrumors 68040

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    So, why is microsoft so evil? Any web pages on it? Any views on it? I believe that apple make better computers, but surely that doesn't make microsoft evil... Does it?
     
  2. sonyrules macrumors regular

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    Think of it this way, The dominate power of the universe wants to control everything you do with a computer. That and greed, I have never seen a company be so drivin to end the life of another companys product. Thats makes them so evil!!!
     
  3. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    Their own internal emails, made public in the government Antri-trust suit, pretty much highlight the reason.s

    My favorite is the one I read a while back, so I don't have a link it, where they admit no originality and they they just rip off others ideas. At least is was honest.
     
  4. jayscheuerle macrumors 68020

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    Evil's a strong word...

    And who is Microsoft anyway?

    ALL the employees?
    The shareholders?
    Just Bill Gates?

    Anyone who buys/uses their products- are they promoting evilness?

    Microsoft is simply a business in the business of making money, operating right up to the edge of the law where ethics can be in the toilet, yet you can't get fined. They make a LOT of money this way.

    Is Microsoft unethical? Most people would say so.
    Are they greedy? Same...
    Are they unoriginal? Again...
    But EVIL? Come on....

    - j
     
  5. jayscheuerle macrumors 68020

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    That's soooo un-PC... :D

    Would you settle for ethically challenged? :p
     
  6. stubeeef macrumors 68030

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    OK, ethically, and would you maybe go to creatively? challenged. Not to distract from whatever it was that they did creatively once. :p
     
  7. caveman_uk Guest

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    Evil's a bit of a strong word. They're a very determined, focused business with little concern for anyone but themselves but that doesn't make them evil. B*stards yes...evil no.
     
  8. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    Doesn't stealing from a software development company and then, trying to put them out of business rate as evil to you? This has been Bill Gates' way for a very, very long time. When he couldn't think of how to accomplish something, he would find someone else who had, make an agreement with them and break the agreement once he had what he wanted. If they had only done it once, it might be understandable, but repeatedly? That's evil.
     
  9. jayscheuerle macrumors 68020

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    Then it must be legal to be evil, or the punishment on evil acts isn't very severe...

    Jeffrey Dalmer was evil. Hitler was evil. Bill Gates's Microsoft is simply nefarious.

    Evil is tossed around with the casualness that the word "genius" is today. These are supposed to be pinnacle descriptions, not just exceptional ones...
     
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    Exactly.
     
  11. XIII thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I called this thread Why is microsoft so evil, because thats what has been flying around, websites talking about Micrsofts evilness, and Micro$oft being used... I just didn't understand what they did... So they have put many businesses out of buisness by breaking agreements and stealing software, yes?
     
  12. jayscheuerle macrumors 68020

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    They don't have to do that. They can simply buy a competitor's product and either incorporate it into their own or squash it. But they DO pay for these things. It's just that their business solutions are not often in the best interest to the consumer.

    For example, they could buy out an innovative, better browser, along with its patents, and let it die.

    The auto industry/oil industry does this all the time. Why in the world would the oil industry want an invention that allows 100 mpg to be achieved to be used? It's easier to shell out a couple of million dollars for the patent rights and just let it rot.

    Microsoft has so much money that they don't need to actually STEAL anything. They are the friend of their stockholders and the enemy of the consumer that is interested in innovation and better products in general.
     
  13. solvs macrumors 603

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    Semantics aside... there is a great website that can explain, better than any of us, why people hate Microsoft so much. If even half of this stuff on the site is true, they are evil. And frighteningly enough, most (if not all) of it is:

    www.microsuck.com

    (formerly "f-word"microsoft.com)
     
  14. jayscheuerle macrumors 68020

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    I guess they are evil...

    e·vil
    adj. e·vil·er, e·vil·est
    Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant.


    1) Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful: the evil effects of a poor diet.

    2) Characterized by or indicating future misfortune; ominous: evil omens.

    3) Bad or blameworthy by report; infamous: an evil reputation.

    4) Characterized by anger or spite; malicious: an evil temper.

    I'd give them 3 out of 4. Not bad... Of course, the question now begs... What do you call someone like Cambodia's Pol Pot? Evil just isn't evil enough anymore...
     
  15. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    English is such a rich language...

    Tyrannical, despotic, diabolical, malevolent, irredeemable, nefarious, malignant, despicable, pestilent, festering wart on all that is good and right comes to mind.

    So does "vacuous, coffee-nosed, malodorous pervert" but thats not really appropriate to Pol Pot.
     
  16. jayscheuerle macrumors 68020

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    Hey, let's not get personal here! As he blankly sips his grande, surfing internet porn sites, hunting for the best deal on antiperspirant...
     
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  18. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    They don't have to steal, but they do it anyway.
     
  19. Fukui macrumors 68000

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    Exactly.

    Think about this, if you meet someone, and they say their your friend, and after you trust them sooo well, while your at the store, they steal your stuff in your house, and you never hear from them again. Isn't that evil? If so, thats exactly what MS does on a consistent basis!

    My dad (has his own business) has been screwed by people that say they are your "friend" but stab you in the back; trust me, when you are on the street, your business in pieces, and with no money because of it, you'll think its pretty "evil" too.

    Not to say you should call MS evil, it sounds pretty fundamentalist (crazy) but what they sometimes do (you know who orders this stuff to be done), could be considered that.
     
  20. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    I'm okay with being called crazy, but fundamentalist--that's going too far. :D

    I think part of the problem is that MS has lazy developers and quality assurance people. They can't figure out a smooth solution to a problem, so they insert a wizard, so they don't have to deal with it directly.

    Bill Gates has been arrogant, deceptive, and belligerent for as long as I can remember. It makes you wonder what the company meetings hold.
     
  21. Apple Hobo macrumors 6502a

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    MS blows because...

    • They shoved their crap software down everyone's throat.

    • IE sucks on so many levels. Have you ever come across a site that only works on IE? Part of it is lazy web programmers, but MS doesn't seem to concerned about it.

    • Software security. No comment.

    • Billy Boy Gates "borrowed" some stuff from Apple

    "Microsoft: We aren't evil; we just suck really badly!"
     
  22. Fukui macrumors 68000

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    I don't mean your crazy or anything!

    Just people like to label. Thats all.

    MS is is company that does almost anything to stay at #1, and it will probably always be that way as long as Steve and Bill are in control.
     
  23. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    I understood.

    You know, I think this is the first time that we're totally in agreement on anything. :)
     

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