Anyone else check out www.macosrumors.com today? They fried their fairly new ATI Radeon 8500 by trying to overclock it. WITH A PENCIL!!! For those of you who don't know, awhile ago they were begging for a new 8500 with ADC (there is no such creature), and offered free advertising in exchange. Someone sent them the Retail 8500 (or the money for it. Then they paid more to get it from the Apple Store. No ADC), then they go and destroy it. Now what are they doing? Asking for ANOTHER video card!!! They want a GeForce 4 Titanium. Chalking up the loss to "the business" they're in. Okay guys, you suckered someone out of ~$200. You played with your new toy. You made a stupid mistake that destroyed your FREE card. You mourn, you move on with you "old" card (which is fine BTW). But come on, now you want a NEW, more expensive card to play with and ruin. Before I thought they were just stupid. And if they couldn't afford $200 (or less) for a video card, maybe they needed to re-examine their priorities. Or their business plans. Now I know they're stupid. Of course, someone will be dumb enough to send them one (at least the product they are begging for this time actually exists), so I wonder who's the bigger idiot. Them, or those of us who go to the site, and support it. I haven't believed much of what they've said in awhile. Even for a rumor site, they were pretty out there (re: wrong most of the time), but at least it was somewhat entertaining. Now, it's just a shell of it's former self (which was also wrong all the time).