This thread is based on American pricing, to make it easier. So I was thinking, a lot of people upgrade their PowerMac G4s. Now bear in mind that Sawtooth G4s can be had for about £70/$140 these days, you'd probably think that with the plethora of upgrades availiable, that its a pretty good starting point? I beg to differ. When upgrading a PowerMac G4, its immediatly classed as a refurb. Yeah? Lets compare this 'Refurbished Mac Mini' to a 'Upgraded PowerMac G4' Refurbished Mac mini, 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo 512MB memory 80GB hard drive SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) Intel GMA 950 graphics processor with 64MB of DDR2 memory $699.00 PowerMac G4 (Pre-Upgrade) - 400Mhz Single G4 256MB memory 30GB Hard Drive DVD-ROM Drive Ati Rage 128 Pro Graphics (32MB) $140.00 Cost of upgrade: Memory Upgrade to 512MB - $40 Graphics Upgrade to equivialent 64MB chip - ~$90 Processor Upgrade to Dual 1.8Ghz (Sonnet) - $589.99 Hard Drive Upgrade to 80GB - $35 Total Cost of Upgrade - $754.99 Cost of PowerMac - $140 TOTAL - $894.99 Quite a lot, in fact - for that price you could get: Refurbished MacBook 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo - White 13.3-inch glossy widescreen display 512MB memory 60GB hard drive SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) Built-in iSight camera Have I missed something out here? Is the G4 actually an Intel Core beating machine, so much so that its price tag is justifiable? I'm quite interested to hear from people who have upgraded their G4s... What do you think? Gav.