Wii want HD

Discussion in 'Games' started by rye9, May 9, 2006.

  1. rye9 macrumors 65816

    rye9

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Location:
    New York (not NYC)
    #1
    I'm not too smart when it comes to video games, and I saw on the Wii's website something about component video output....doesn't that mean higher resolution, so the Wii will support graphics that are above standard analog?
     
  2. mrgreen4242 macrumors 601

    mrgreen4242

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2004
    #2
    No. The Wii will run at 480p resolutions max. Component cables can be used for HD, they can also be used for very nice SD pictures. The color seperation improves clarity, increases sharpness, and provides the extra bandwidth for the progressive scan signal (as opposed to standard interlaced).
     
  3. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

    GFLPraxis

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2004
    #3
    Yeah, progressive scan and widescreen is the highest it goes.

    But frankly, after seeing someone play Twilight Princess and Red Steel on a huge widescreen 480p projector...I honestly don't care if it's HD or not. I swear I didn't notice.
     
  4. Laslo Panaflex macrumors 65816

    Laslo Panaflex

    Joined:
    May 1, 2003
    Location:
    Tokyo
    #4
    Yeah, how was the event Praxis? It was hard to hear the crowd, they didn't seem that excited, at least not as excited as those at a Steve note.
     
  5. Abulia macrumors 68000

    Abulia

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Location:
    Kushiel's Scion
    #5
    Well, other people did.
     
  6. Dagless macrumors Core

    Dagless

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    #6
    I don't want HD :) HD=more money. After seeing a Cube at 480p I'm very happy with that.

    Can Component be put through some kind of adapter to VGA/DVI?
     
  7. GFLPraxis macrumors 604

    GFLPraxis

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2004
    #7
    Shouldn't have put Red Steel in there, sorry. Engadget is absolutely 100% right about that. I was just listing the games I saw being played.

    Red Steel was downright ugly in some of the environmments, definitely could have run on an XBox. Underwhelming. Engadget described it very well.

    Zelda was what impressed me. The game was seriously just plain gorgeous.
     
  8. risc macrumors 68030

    risc

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    #8
    I just watched the Nintendo pre-E3 press conference and after playing the 360 in HD the Wii needs HD. I saw nothing graphic wise that couldn't be done on a Xbox (and a lot of it looked worse than the PS2). As for the controller yeah that looks like it would be fun for a few minutes then I'd need to see a specialist for my carpal tunnel. I can't wait to read peoples reaction from the E3 show floor, but at the moment colour me unimpressed.

    /me puts on asbestos suit and waits for the flames...

    This always makes me laugh. Since NO standard definition TVs do progressive scan you are forced to either by an EDTV or HD (both of which cost more than Std def TV). Why would anyone buy EDTV? BTW is there such a thing as a wide screen progressive scan EDTV? If not you'll all be buying HDTVs to play it 480p WS... does anyone else see the irony here?
     
  9. Dagless macrumors Core

    Dagless

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    #9
    Hmm. I have a monitor, thats what I'm outputting too. My mate has a 2405FPW with his 360 connected via component. That's perfect in 720p. My 2005FPW with VGA would be perfect for 480p Wii.
     
  10. eva01 macrumors 601

    eva01

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2005
    Location:
    Gah! Plymouth
    #10
    yep i have a monitor i connect mine to as well
     
  11. risc macrumors 68030

    risc

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    #11
    So you are saying you would like to have 4 people hudled around a 20" monitor? Um okay then I guess Wii are on different wave lengths.
     
  12. eva01 macrumors 601

    eva01

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2005
    Location:
    Gah! Plymouth
    #12
    well my friend has a 60" television for party games. However it isn't HD. I will be getting a HD TV in the next year i believe however it will mainly be for when anime starts coming out in HD


    and almost every single game i play at home are one-player or i prefer to play it one player
     
  13. risc macrumors 68030

    risc

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    #13
    eva01 my point is that if you want to play Wii on a nice big wide screen TV you will be paying for a HDTV anyway. People can talk all day about how HD is a waste of money but the irony is to get the best experience from the Wii (480p widescreen according to GFLpraxis above) you'll be playing it on a HDTV anyway just at standard definition.
     
  14. Dagless macrumors Core

    Dagless

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    #14
    Who says I play multiplayer games? I'm a single player whore. I have the 40" (480i) downstairs for multiplayer when the need arises. but no. 2 players at most. :confused: why are you trying to guess what I'm doing and how I play games?
     
  15. mkaake macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2003
    Location:
    mi
    #15
    is someone trying to pick a flame?

    Anyway, he said he's fine with 480p, you've said you're not. That's great. That's all that has to be said about it.
     
  16. TheMonarch macrumors 65816

    TheMonarch

    Joined:
    May 6, 2005
    Location:
    Bay Area
    #16
    I have an LCD HDTV thats just begging for HD content. So I plan on getting a PS3 and a cheap DVD player. But I'm still buying the Wii.

    Trust me, SD video upscaled to 1366x768 looks like garbage, not matter how good the game. It doesn't make the game any less fun, but its disappointing. I can't imagine SD video upscaled to 1080p would look like.

    I really wish the Wii had some HD capabilities. Or at least a widescreen option.
     
  17. mkaake macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2003
    Location:
    mi
    #17
    because he wants to pick a fight.

    I'm just waiting for him to throw in 'you're just a fanboy', because it's obvious that the world can't live without HD. Except people who can. But those people are stupid, because they don't understand how awesome HD is. Or something.

    Forget the fact that despite what people on message boards think, the majority of the world still uses SD displays, and will for some time.

    <enter the comments of how stupid I am, how HD sets are on the rise, and how they'll never touch a console that only has HD>
     
  18. rye9 thread starter macrumors 65816

    rye9

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Location:
    New York (not NYC)
    #18
    Wouldn't 480p look semi-horrible on my 720p HDTV?

    If that was true, the Wii would be the best console ever IMO. It's so perefct to me otherwise, just add HD to it and... *drools* :D
     
  19. eva01 macrumors 601

    eva01

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2005
    Location:
    Gah! Plymouth
    #19
    I thought the Wii was widescreen. Maybe i am mistaken.
     
  20. Dagless macrumors Core

    Dagless

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    Fighting to stay in the EU
  21. Abulia macrumors 68000

    Abulia

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Location:
    Kushiel's Scion
    #21
    Depends on the quality of scaler on the set and your set's native resolution (I'm going to assume 720p). So it could look "okay;" certainly not nearly as good as 720p. (And for those who haven't seen a 720p signal, it's an order of magnitude better than 480p. The difference between 720p and 1080i isn't as great, however.)

    You'd likely see some scaling and jaggies, though.

    Looks like he's not the only one trying to pick a fight. If you think he's trolling 1) ignore him or 2) report him.
     
  22. risc macrumors 68030

    risc

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    #22
    HAHA! I'm a troll because I watch the Nintendo E3 press conference and they show the Wii being played by 4 people in front of a nice big TV and I point out that it is ironic that to get this kind of experience you need to buy a HDTV anyway?

    BTW If anyone is a Nintendo fanboy here it is myself I've owned every Nintendo home console from the NES to the GameCube. I'm sorry that you guys take offense to people pointing out stuff about the Wii but life must go on.
     
  23. AP_piano295 macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2005
    #23
    does the control look tricky to you? it deffinitely did to me. I agree with you on HD games I can take or leave TV and movies in HD (though step into liquid would look sweet) but games graphical improvement goes hand in hand with game improvement.
     
  24. RoxStrongo macrumors regular

    RoxStrongo

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2005
    Location:
    Bournemouth, UK
    #24
    now i am in no way speaking for anyone other than myself and these are my observations as a british citizen that, up until recently, worked within electrical retail. now with the disclaimer out of the way it seems to me that here in the uk hdtv has barely even escaped the womb. not a single set, that i'm aware of, that does 1080p and no hd broadcast. from my experience people buy them as penis extensions, as if showing off a new car. the lack of standardisation, content and value for money is not enough to attract the family demographic. hdtvs are for those with more money than sense and just need to feel like they have the latest and greatest. common sense suggests waiting for more digital inputs, standardised broadcast res and screen res and some actual content. i don't see adoption in the uk going beyond 10% over the next 3 years and i don't think hd-media will have the same effect that dvd did. to the average consumer its just not a big enough difference.

    on a different note i wish ninty had kept the monitor output. i've got a very upset 20" acd now.
     
  25. Dagless macrumors Core

    Dagless

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Location:
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    #25
    Clearly you're oblivious to the popularity of the DS. Low resolution= most sold handheld and higher rated games. hmm. ok! Oh! and does that mean Mario Bros 1 is crap, or that other legendary status games are nothing?
    Gee, you know I'd much rather play Sonic Adventure 2 or Heroes or that new Racing one when I could go and play Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

    Your theory= wrong. you might want it to be right. but look at the ratings of new games against old games. old sonic vs. new sonic. Mario Bros 3 versus Mario Sunshine? hmm.

    totally agrees on the UK point. If anything a lot of my mates are ditching TV's in favour of computers with digital TV receivers. Or not even that, just downloaded TV shows! HDTV isn't alive and well in the UK.
    about the ACD thing. I've been looking around and you can pick up Component to VGA adapters. thats if the ACD supports VGA - I've no idea :) I can get one quite cheap, about £15 so it's little extra to pay for a perfect image.

    http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/component-vga-hd15-1.html?id=taEHAofu
     

Share This Page