Will Mac OS X work on any intel motherboard?

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  1. princealfie macrumors 68030

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    If need to replace a motherboard with Intel processor, will the Mac OS X be compatible for it or do I need a properitary [sic] motherboard with intel chip?
     
  2. Lanbrown macrumors 6502a

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    If you have a Mac, then you would need a Mac motherboard for the system. How else would everything get put back together? If you want to install OS X on a regular Intel based system, I suggest doing a search using Google and see what you find.
     
  3. Bobdude161 macrumors 65816

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    It's illegal blah blah blah blah blah blah. OK now I got that out of the way. No one else needs to reitirrate, thank you..
     
  4. 4nr- macrumors regular

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    Its not illegal, or actually nobody really knows... as long as you have a licensed copy of the OS I don't think you'll be in much danger.
     
  5. robbieduncan Moderator emeritus

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    You are definitely 100% breaking the legal agreement you enter into with Apple when you install OSX.

    If you get a board close enough to a shipping Mac it might work but beware as there are not platform drivers for non-Mac platforms...
     
  6. livingfortoday macrumors 68030

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  7. princealfie thread starter macrumors 68030

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    thanks guys for some interesting responses. I guess it's time to slap a powermac g5 motherboard into a desktop ATX case then... :D
     
  8. dkoralek macrumors 6502

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    Ummmm... I don't see how the "on a single Apple-labeled computer" can be interpreted differently.

    From the end user license...

    "2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
    A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. This
    License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software
    available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. If you use Setup Assistant to transfer
    software from one Apple-labeled computer to another Apple-labeled computer, please remember that continued use of the original
    copy of the software may be prohibited once a copy has been transferred to another computer, unless you already have a licensed
    copy of such software on both computers. You should check the relevant software license agreements for applicable terms and
    conditions. You may make one copy of the Apple Software (excluding the Boot ROM code) in machine-readable form for backup
    purposes only; provided that the backup copy must include all copyright or other proprietary notices contained on the original."

    cheers.
     
  9. portent macrumors 6502a

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    Did you read what he asked?

    He's talking about replacing/upgrading the motherboard in his Apple-labeled computer! He is not asking about building some whitebox PC.

    AFAIK, this would be legal, but would probably not work, since Mac OS X would not recognize the Intel motherboard as an "Apple" motherboard.
     
  10. slughead macrumors 68030

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    The short end of it is: It's possible to install, and if you use supported hardware, it'll all work... mostly.

    The install DVD for intel macs wont boot up on a normal PC though.

    There's a lot of hacks and trickery to get it to work, but it's possible.

    Also, if you already own a Mac, you could probably ignore the law on this one, whatever it says. Apple is just plain not going to sue you.

    If you don't own a mac, you'll need a license from somewhere for the exact software you plan to use. I don't think Apple sells Tiger DVDs for Intel, so you'll have to wait for leopard.
     
  11. dkoralek macrumors 6502

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    I would believe that replacing the motherboard of say a power mac with an intel motherboard would probably not be an apple-labeled computer any more. as you said, regardless, without the apple chip, an intel version of os x will not run (other than a hacked version, which would be technically be illegal).

    It's almost guaranteed that the install disk will not work as is. I can't imagine that Apple sells Tiger DVDs for Intel since there would be no reason to since any Intel Mac will have come with Tiger.

    cheers.
     
  12. princealfie thread starter macrumors 68030

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    So theoretically a motherboard can't be reflashed for use with mac drivers and PCI cards?
     
  13. dkoralek macrumors 6502

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    At least on the earlier pcs that apple shipped to developers before they introduced the Intel Macs, there was an additional trusted platform module (TPM) on the motherboard, so OS X wouldn't boot unless it found it. This has been hacked by other users. One needs to modify the kernel to get OS X to work on non-Apple hardware. Obviously, the closer to Mac the hardware is, the fewer modifications needed. One would assume that some additional modifications would need to be made to get OS X to run with a system using BIOS instead of EFI. The real issues are on the software side of things, since OS X is designed for a limited hardware range.

    cheers.
     
  14. rhpenguin macrumors 6502a

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    This is a topic im interested in as my sig will tell you why. Yes, what im doing is illegal, but im OK with that. Now moving on.

    You do need an Apple mobo to run MacOS. Your only option to obtain that is going the ebay route, unless you run a copy with a custom kernel and VERY SPECIFIC HARDWARE. Im not going to say anymore than that because I dont want any fanbois stuck in the rdf jumping all over me.

    Edit: Oh and there are teams of people working on getting coppies of OS X to work with EFI present on newer intel produced mobos such as the BadAxe2...
     
  15. Bobdude161 macrumors 65816

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    Reitirrate you have!
     
  16. fasterringo1 macrumors newbie

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    apple mac os x runs in Intel Desktop Board

    :eek: Mac runs in Intel Desktop Board DG45FC G45 Express and Intel® Desktop Board DG45ID G45 Express. :apple:
     
  17. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    funny, i didnt think apple wrote the law

    you are violating an eula which is not a law by any means. eulas have been turned down in court too. i mean you arent gonna go to jail for breaking it
     
  18. QuarterSwede macrumors G3

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    Good grief. Talk about a thread resurrection.
     
  19. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    lol didnt even notice that
     
  20. Chaos123x macrumors 68000

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    i heard you can get life imprisonment from ripping a tag off your own couch cushion.
    It's true, your breaking the law!

    I say go for it if you want to deal with the issues of owning a Hackintosh, worst comes to worst you can always install another OS on it, (if it's a pain) like Ubuntu or Windows 7.


    I would like to build one just for fun to see how it works.
     
  21. TrapOx macrumors 6502

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    Why would anyone even want a Hackintrash? Macs are not a bad value (except the current Mini), macs are far better quality and macs can already run windows.

    The only valid exception I can think of is the netbook category.
     
  22. Brannyh macrumors member

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    I want to make my own Mac, but can't I use someones old motherboard on someones iMac and the screen (iMac with i7, epic!)
     
  23. J the Ninja macrumors 68000

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    No.

    -Sent from my iPhone.
     
  24. Brannyh macrumors member

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    Just NO?

    Can you please explain? It seems possible, but i do not want to do anything illegal. (what about a broken Mac pro (almost said power mac! lol) that someone is selling on craigslist?)
     

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