Will Windows Virus's from Boot Camp Affect OS X?

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    The_Man

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    I was just wondering if I am to dual boot into Windows on my intel-mac, and get virus' (which is destined to happen), will this affect the performance of OS X in anyway?

    Thanks

    (If this is a repeat of an old thread can somone just send me a link and the mods will delete this thread. I used search, but couldn't find anything.)
     
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    CanadaRAM

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    If the Virus is clever enough to erase the entire drive, or damage the hardware (by overheating?) maybe.
    Or if it is a virus in a common language like Visual Basic for Applications (the Microsoft Office automation language)

    But otherwise, how do you suppose a virus written to execute in one OS can cross the universe and execute in another OS entirely?
     
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    dmw007

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    This is the only way that I could see this happening.
     
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    grapes911

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    There are a couple of viruses that are known to get into the MBR and mess things up, but I really wouldn't worry about a Windows virus affecting OS X at all.
     
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    ChrisBrightwell

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    Virii are not part of the Windows experience by default. They're part of what happens when you give someone a tool, expect them to know its ins and outs, and leave everything on/open by default.

    That said, Windows-borne virii should have little or no effect on your OS X installation, seeing as Windows can't read the HFS+ filesystem. Biggest problem might be a low-level access to the drive that eats the partition table or something, but virii are rarely that destructive anymore.

    Most of them just want to turn your machine into a spam relay or a DDoS zombie.
     
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    Danksi

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    How about with Virtual PC?

    Slight de-tour, but I'm occasionally using Virtual PC with Windows XP and a similar thought of virus's crossed my mind. Do I need an anti-virus application in my case?

    EDIT: Sorry, I was being lazy. I found an answer in another thread.
     
  7. macrumors newbie

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    will macs running xp be vulnerable to viruses?

    will the macs running xp be vulnerable to viruses?? i'm not really to good at that kinda stuff. its just a question i've been wondering about for awhile. Thanks for any help!!:D
     
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    no it wont,
    of course just the fact, windows is running on a Mac will make it stable and secure... no i am jokin,

    windows will stay the same on every platform!
     
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    To Translate

    Yes you are vulnerable to viruses. See, its the OS not the hardware that determines susceptibility.
     
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    superbovine

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    someone wrote and posted a windows/linux viruses that was able to move through different unix,linux, and windows a few years ago. now, a viruses jumping from windows to os x just executing machine code in theory could be possible, but quite hard.

    http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html
     
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    EricNau

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    From Apple:

    Link
     
  12. macrumors newbie

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    ok thanks! ive been thinkin bout that for awhile and im just starting to get better at computer stuff.:D
     
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    EricNau

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    I suspect this is going to be the target for virus programers for a while; at least until the novelty wears off.
     
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    I also suspect this particular subject will be the beginning of many threads for the foreseeable future...!!! :D
     
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    Doctor Q

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    About the question of whether your Mac OS X disk partition is vulnerable to a virus that infects the Windows side of your system: I assume the answer is YES.

    (Actually the answer might be NO as of today, but will be YES in short order, as virus authors adapt their code for dual-boot Macs.)
     
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    Catching a virus on the PC is not as easy as most Mac enthusiasts would have you believe.
     
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    Viruses - no if you've got either a good virus checker or an ISP that checks incoming/outgoing mail. Spyware - yes, although you're obviously more prone to it if you use IE and have interests that take you to odd search results or believe that clicking on toolbars/smileys adverts and popups is a good thing. I believe that most tech-savvy users can keep a PC clean but most home-users aren't savvy and for them it's tough (at least listening to the conversations around my office!)
     
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    These are just my recommendations :)

    As soon as you install windows on any machine, I would install a few tools...
    1. Anti-Virus - AVG (www.grisoft.com) - an Excellent program, unlimited free version available (pro costs just over 38 dollars US for 2 years of use).
    2. Spyware tools - Spybot Search and Destroy and Adaware - two great tools. Spywareblaster is a good additional tool as well...
    3. Browser - FireFox. I personally avoid using IE as much as possible because quite a few virii of late seem to have taken advantage of "weaknesses" in either IE or OE.

    As I said, these are just my recommendations - but all of these have freely downloadable legal versions, which you can burn to a cd before the install to have them ready :)

    Phoenixjim
     
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    ChrisBrightwell

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    All you have to do is plug an unprotected machine into the internet. Being infected then becomes a matter of time.
     
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    EricNau

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    I heard of a study once (sorry, I don't have the source), and it was an average of 18 minutes before an unprotected computer got a form of malware.
     
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    evoluzione

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    sounds to me like the news of H5N1 bird flu, crossing from birds to humans...

    virus affecting a simple thing (bird/PC) crossing over to something better (human/Mac).
     
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    Doctor Q

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    I'm glad to hear that. I had heard that it was a matter of seconds, e.g., faster than you could launch a program to configure a firewall.
     
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    stoid

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    But what system? Unpatched XP? Or SP2? I've heard that SP2 did a pretty good job of protecting a system from those self-propogating worms.
     
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    Laser47

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    From what I have seen, everytime someone has a problem with their computer they say its a virus. When it turns out the person caused the problem and just doesn't want to admit it.

    And like said earlier, its not that easy to get a virus. Most of the time its caused by using computers without common sense. Like the people who use P2P to download music, and end up downloading .exe files. Or the click-happy people who just click yes to every ActiveX control that comes up in IE.
    The only thing I use to protect my computers is McAfee Virus Scan, and a router, and nothing else. I cant even remember the last time I a virus was detected on any of my computers.
     
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    Kingsly

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    ...Which is why the only time my MacBook Pro XP sees the 'net is at LAN parties. (and thats just a local network!)
     

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