Windows XP Turns 5! yeah...

[contoursvt]

Hmmm maybe people have not upgraded because Win2k is pretty solid so if it aint broke, dont fix it. Also you wasted your money on Nortons and getting a firewall in the form of software that you paid for. Dont blame anyone but yourself for not doing some research.

XP's firewall actually works quite well and its free with SP2 but I think its still best to have a hardware firewall / router as well. Avast and AVG are 100% free antivirus software that work well.

5 years, wow! And to think that there are still some people yet to upgrade to it in my office.

It is amazing to see how much the OS'es have evolved over the last 5 years as a deliverable product and something still waiting to be released in the near/distant future.

Competition is good for Apple and Microsoft, it keeps them on their toes. I'm just pleased that I got XP Pro as part of Microsoft's Action Pack instead of spending $$$ on it. The savings made there, I have spent with Norton for AV/firewall software. Now that is a bitch with XP... Buy the OS and pay an annual fee to another company just to keep running the darn thing.

PS: Love the 'archive as a PDF' comment

 

[contoursvt]

At my work, the only crashing is done by Apple hardware its running on. Replaced 2 SATA 160gig drives, one ibook keyboard, one PSU from a dual 2Ghz G5 tower, PSU from a dual 2.5 G5 tower and a logic board in an imac G5....luckily we had purchased extended warranty. These machines are 2.5 years old or less.

In the same time frame, I have replaced one 2gig hard drive from a Pentium 60 box which was acting as a terminal and one DVD burner in a 3 year old P4 HP box. Oh and I replaced a noisy fan in a PC tower case.

See whats funny is that we have 100 users in the building and every single person has a computer. Out of those 100, 15 have Apple products so in relation to whats actually failed per user, Apple is doing horribly bad in our environment.

Thats the hardware side. Software side is more even I can say I've had to troubleshoot both Windows and OSX as often. Windows sometimes doing quirky things until I dump the temp folder or reboot..etc.... OSX having printing issues like print jobs just vanishing into thin air (frequently) and restarting fixes it.


Anyway the moral of the story is that you should get off your high horse. Just because you tried windows 95 and it blue screened once on some crappy noname hardware that you dont even know who put together doesnt mean XP is crappy. I installed XP about 1.5 years ago on my dual xeon box and its going strong. I dont even run antivirus or anti spyware. I just dont surf p0rn or go to mystery sites trying to get illegal software and all is good. Also my win2k server has been running since 2003 on the same OS and its running a webserver, FTP, exchange server and file server. I can count on one hand the number of lockups and blue screens I've had between the two boxes. So thas less than 5 between 2 computers with a combined running time of 4-5 years.

It's funny, because most 5 year olds are learning to ride bikes, and they crash less than windows.

 

[breakfastcrew]

At my work, the only crashing is done by Apple hardware its running on. Replaced 2 SATA 160gig drives, one ibook keyboard, one PSU from a dual 2Ghz G5 tower, PSU from a dual 2.5 G5 tower and a logic board in an imac G5....luckily we had purchased extended warranty. These machines are 2.5 years old or less.

In the same time frame, I have replaced one 2gig hard drive from a Pentium 60 box which was acting as a terminal and one DVD burner in a 3 year old P4 HP box. Oh and I replaced a noisy fan in a PC tower case.

See whats funny is that we have 100 users in the building and every single person has a computer. Out of those 100, 15 have Apple products so in relation to whats actually failed per user, Apple is doing horribly bad in our environment.

Thats the hardware side. Software side is more even I can say I've had to troubleshoot both Windows and OSX as often. Windows sometimes doing quirky things until I dump the temp folder or reboot..etc.... OSX having printing issues like print jobs just vanishing into thin air (frequently) and restarting fixes it.


Anyway the moral of the story is that you should get off your high horse. Just because you tried windows 95 and it blue screened once on some crappy noname hardware that you dont even know who put together doesnt mean XP is crappy. I installed XP about 1.5 years ago on my dual xeon box and its going strong. I dont even run antivirus or anti spyware. I just dont surf p0rn or go to mystery sites trying to get illegal software and all is good. Also my win2k server has been running since 2003 on the same OS and its running a webserver, FTP, exchange server and file server. I can count on one hand the number of lockups and blue screens I've had between the two boxes. So thas less than 5 between 2 computers with a combined running time of 4-5 years.

LOL I logged on just to say I love you man.

 

[SkyBell]

Geez, whats with the 98 SE comments? I think it's the most stable OS microsft ever made.

(Let the disagrements begin )

And I agree with you 100% contoursvt You present a valid point. Windows really is a good OS. Its just more open to viruses and stuff becasue it's the most widely used of the OS's.

 

[contoursvt]

Thanks guys Well I saw all the stupid windows bashing and had to give my 2 cents worth. Hehe.

 

[dextertangocci]

Xp never crashes maybe if you knew how to use it properly.

But you can't get to use it properly, because it crashes before you try to do anything on it

It's time to face the truth everyone: windoze sucks, it's a fact

 

[contoursvt]

But you can't get to use it properly, because it crashes before you try to do anything on it

It's time to face the truth everyone: windoze sucks, it's a fact

maybe it wouldnt crash on you right away if you knew how to use it....PS. you need to get your facts straight LOL.. Also if it sucked so bad, why is everyone rushing to put it on their Mac? LOL

 

[dextertangocci]

.....why is everyone rushing to put it on their Mac? LOL

I certainly don't have it on my mac. Even if I do a spotlight search with the word "microsoft" in it, not a single thing comes up, and no, not even their fonts, because I've deleted them, except a few PDF's of web pages that I've saved about how much windoze sucks

 

[contoursvt]

I certainly don't have it on my mac. Even if I do a spotlight search with the word "microsoft" in it, not a single thing comes up, and no, not even their fonts, because I've deleted them, except a few PDF's of web pages that I've saved about how much windoze sucks

LOL thats nice for you but considering there are 1600+ threads on this very new section of macforums, I'd say I'm right

 

[Bismarck]

You must be vigilant daily to make certain that a Windows machine is kept maintained and malware-free.

I have been running Win2000 for years without being vigilant, and never had a problem. I set up a router with a firewall, set up a software firewall, set up a virus scanner. It didn't take rocket science to do these steps, though I'm a programmer, anyone with good reading comprehension skills could have followed the instructions.

I haven't updated the virus scanner signatures in a couple of years. (Like the mechanic whose car is in worse shape than anyone else's). But everything is going smoothly. Same goes for an XP laptop.

It's just a matter of common sense. People need to know not to walk through crowds with their wallet poking out their back pockets. They need to know to do a few basic setups and be careful that when they walk into the internet, there are dark alleys that you don't want to go in without protection. But the lure of "free" stuff, or gambling, or porn puts them at risk. Same as walking into a drug market or red light district.