There's another mac mini look-alike at Computex from Foxconn, called the NetBox: http://www.tomshardware.com/business/20050601/computex_day_2-05.html (scroll down a little) It seems to be a little thinner than a mini, but longer. I kinda like the form factor, it looks nice. It doesn't have any networking options, wired or wireless, so it has to be USB. Also, it doesn't have DVI out, just VGA, so expect a little quality loss on your flat panels. Its hard-drive is a 2.5", not 3.5", so its probably a little slower with less capacity. From the picture, I didn't see an optical drive, so it would be USB as well. No firewire, The processor is a 500Mhz AMD Geode, which I'd not heard of, but its for pda's, set top boxes, and the like. Its really low voltage, and only 1 watt. I don't expect anything too fast from it. http://www.amd.com/us-en/ConnectivitySolutions/ProductInformation/0,,50_2330_9863,00.html I don't know what kind of memory it takes, or how fast. At 500Mhz, the memory could be running at a 1:1 ratio with the CPU! It probably takes so-dimms, and its probably DDR. Its estimated to be about $300, so $200 cheaper than the mini.