Wireless N upgrade free after all?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by taylorwilsdon, Jan 25, 2007.

  1. taylorwilsdon macrumors 68000


    Nov 16, 2006
    Bay Area

    As of 10:09PM Pacific, Apple released the Airport Extreme 2007-001 update.

    This update is recommended for all Intel-based Macintosh computers and provides compatibility with AirPort Extreme base stations and networks.

    Could this mean that the fabled Draft-n compatibility will come free after all? Seems that the accounting story was a about as legitimate as it was made out to be.
  2. After G macrumors 68000

    After G

    Aug 27, 2003
    Apple was just covering themselves, I'd guess.
  3. richard4339 macrumors 6502a


    Sep 6, 2006
  4. taylorwilsdon thread starter macrumors 68000


    Nov 16, 2006
    Bay Area
    You're very wrong!

    View the post for the update, but Apple's site confirms that the new update "you and up to 50 of your friends, colleagues, or family members can enjoy a robust wireless network offering up to five times the performance and up to twice the range of networks created with the earlier 802.11g standard."
  5. vansouza macrumors 68000


    Mar 28, 2006
    West Plains, MO USA Earth
    going faster now

    I know it sounds nuts, but I tested at test.lvcm.com and got 6 on my MBP, after the update it is not downloading at 10+.
  6. bearbo macrumors 68000


    Jul 20, 2006
    i somehow didn't think G would give 6MB/s
  7. AlexGFX88 macrumors member

    Jan 12, 2007
    Yeh, I can confirm much faster speeds, at speak easy 15 minutes ago, I was at 6+, after the update heres my results

    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 9608 kbps (1201 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 973 kbps (121.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
  8. glib macrumors member

    Mar 7, 2006
    Out of curiosity, I also ran a bandwidth test at speakeasy with a close mirror and got 1024kb/s, then updated, restarted, and got 2100kb/s. Upload speed was slightly faster, but only 10%ish, not the near doubling that I got in my down speed. Not sure if it was just the restart that did it or what, but sweet!
  9. adrianblaine macrumors 65816


    Oct 12, 2006
    Pasadena, CA
    You guys do realize that the router and airport speed have little to do with how fast your internet is right? It has more to do with your actual internet connection. Just because you get an N-router does not mean all-of-a-sudden you'll have much faster internet. Sure, anything you do over the local network will be tons faster, but it is still broadcasting your same slow internet (in a matter of speaking). At least that's what I was always under the impression of.
  10. AvMac macrumors member


    Nov 12, 2006
    I second that opinion.

    There will be an increase only in the wireless range due to the N specifications. Internet download/upload speed should remain the same.
  11. glib macrumors member

    Mar 7, 2006
    And you realize that the local network speeds could be a limiting factor to your internet speed, seeing it must be routed through the local network. All I'm saying is, my internet was the same slowish speed of 1Mbps for hours (and I did restart once in that time) and after the update and a restart, it was over double that.

    I'm not saying I think my internet connection has gotten faster. I'm saying the connection between my wireless laptop and my wireless router has gotten stronger.
  12. jimytheassassin macrumors member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Brooklyn, NY
    can you see proof that it's operating in N mode? Have you tried limiting your router to just accept/broadcast N signals? I want to believe there's real proof since apples own page even says it, but there are many doubters here and elsewhere. "I WANT THE TRUTH"-a few good men
  13. ilkevinli macrumors 6502


    Apr 8, 2006
    I don't know what this update does, but I don't think it is updating the wireless card to "N" capability. The reason I say this is because after updating in OSX and then rebooting into Windows, there is no re-detection if the wireless acrd as there should be with a firmware update to the wireless card. Windows is still only showing a connection speed of 54mbps.
  14. tdhurst macrumors 68040


    Dec 27, 2003
    Portland, OR

    I agree as well. I wish everyone understood the real world benefits of 802.11n, and while it's convenient, it's not a huge improvement to most of us.
  15. Peace macrumors P6


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier
    The new airport extreme allows for 802.11g and 802.11n to work together without losing any speed on either spec.You can have a Mac with 802.11g using the Extreme at the same time as a Mac using 802.11n without losing bandwidth.

    This update
    A. fixed a bug.
    B. Allows Intel Macs with Core Duo to keep from dragging the Extreme base station down to 802.11g.

    This IS NOT a firmware update to 802.11n

    See : http://www.technewsworld.com/story/55410.html
  16. killmoms macrumors 68040


    Jun 23, 2003
    Washington, DC
    So your wireless access point was also magically updated to N somehow? I mean, if you actually have a draft-N wireless access point/router, I won't doubt you... but even if you get 802.11n on your card, it makes NO difference to ANY speed if your router only supports 802.11a/b/g. (EDIT: Okay, if you had TWO machines with draft-N cards and made an ad-hoc network between them, THEN there would be a difference in speed.)

    Apple said they're charging $1.99 to upgrade to 802.11n if you don't buy the new 802.11n Airport Extreme, and I believe that's true. I don't think they'd release the update for free mere days later. This is just a regular old Airport Extreme update like any other.
  17. glib macrumors member

    Mar 7, 2006
    I never said anything about 802.11n. I'm just referring to the 'other
    improvements' mentioned in that other thread linked at the top of this one. I couldn't dig up the release notes anywhere for clarification.

    I just assumed they streamlined the implementation of the wireless-g protocol a bit more and fixed a few bugs that might have been slowing it down.

    All I know is that it's faster than it was before, and that's nice.
  18. AlexGFX88 macrumors member

    Jan 12, 2007
    It doesn't stay the same for me, I have a drastic increase in speed browsing and downloading.
  19. daneoni macrumors G4


    Mar 24, 2006
    Probably because the update increases the size of Packets (TCP Window) (that go out and come in).

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