Would you vote for a third party?

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    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/third-party-candidates-democrats-republicans-poll-98170.html


    I know our electoral system makes them nearly impossible, but given the choice - how good would a third option even have to be to be an improvement?
     
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    I voted for H Ross Perot...twice no less. So yeah, I would throw my vote away rather than give them to either Democrats or Republicans.
     
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    thekev

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    It would initially be easier at the state and local level. It would provide the capacity for differentiation without "endless" funding. For a third party to show real viability at the national level, we would require restrictions on campaign finance, further restrictions on non-profits such as churches, and a revision of the electoral college system, possibly a combination of those. As it stands right now these guys remain in office in spite of dismal approval ratings.
     
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    A vote for a third party is in my opinion a wasted vote until you change the system. For real multiparty democracy you need proportional representation.
     
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    SLC Flyfishing

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    I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012, and didn't cast a ballot for president in 2008.

    I'm conservative in some areas, more liberal in others. But I don't line up well with either D's or R's and think they've both lost sight of what is important in governing.
     
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    CalWizrd

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    I'm 100% in agreement with this... it describes my situation exactly.
     
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    SwiftLives

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    A third party only serves to split a faction of the voters...not to mention donations. I don't think there are currently enough corporate backers to fund a viable third party.
     
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    citizenzen

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    This. Change the system. Otherwise, I won't waste my vote.
     
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    SLC Flyfishing

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    You talk about wasting your vote, but what do you do when you're equally repulsed by both parties? Or if the lesser of two evils is still more than you feel comfortable endorsing?
     
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    I think if voters are frustrated at the way government works (or doesn't work) then they should look in the mirror. Everyone in Congress and the President are elected -- this government is not imposed on us. The stubborn, no compromise attitude of many politicians directly corresponds with that exact attitude of the electorate.

    To more directly answer the OP's questions, I'd vote for a third party if I agreed with the vision of the candidate but I don't think that a major third party would automatically mean things would work better.
     
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    citizenzen

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    It's an easy choice.

    Only one of the two major parties supports a woman's right to choose. Only one of the two major parties recognizes Climate Change is real and needs to be addressed. Only one of the two major parties seems committed to maintaining social safety nets. Only one of the two major parties thinks there's any need for stronger gun control. Only one of the two major parties embraces the role of government that reflects my values. Only one of the two major parties believes in regulating private industry. Only one of the two major parties believes that endangered species need to be protected ...

    Shall I go on?
     
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    CalWizrd

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    You are correct. It is an easy choice. For you.
     
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    I threw my vote away on a third party in the 2012 elections. There was no way I would have voted for Romney and in good conscience, I could not vote for Obama based on weak his first term was.
     
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    There are virtually no truly competitie elections where I live, so I do often vote for third parties -- it won't change the election outcome but it helps keep them on the ballot and get them campaign finance funds. It's also possible in many elections to vote for a major party candidate on a third party ticket, which has the same effect.
     
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    SLC Flyfishing

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    I should have made my question more plain apparently.

    What do you SUGGEST to someone like I described above?
     
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    Run for office yourself?

    Start or join a grass roots organization focused on changing the system?
     
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    TacticalDesire

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    Libertarian Party
     
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    Macky-Mac

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    I suspect that Citizen isn't actually repulsed by both parties.....just by the republicans. :p

    As for myself, I've voted for third party candidates several times and likely will again in the future. There's no surer way to prevent change than feeling compelled to pick between just two parties, both of which you don't find acceptable
     
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    citizenzen

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    Weigh your alternatives.

    Make an informed choice.
     
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    I would and I have.
     
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    jnpy!$4g3cwk

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    I have voted for third-party candidates numerous times. It depends on the circumstances. I have also voted for Republicans at times. Recently, I have voted almost exclusively for Democrats, and, never for Republicans. Wherever fiscally conservative, socially liberal/libertarian, pro-welfare-state candidates are to be found.

    Today's socially conservative Republicans are the antithesis of what I believe -- high-spending/low-tax/anti-welfare-state/pro-gun-lobby/socially-repressive/pro-racist-religious bigotry/pro-super-rich/pro-inequality/pro-ugly-ism Republicans.
     
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    Eraserhead

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    Small parties can have people who are pretty useless in them.
     
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    shinji

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    Not a fan of the Libertarian or Green Party, so if those are my choices for third party, no.

    Only if there were another party I really agreed with who had a reasonable shot at winning would I do that.
     
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    robanga

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    I'd vote for a 3rd party - I vote for who i agree with based on my limited knowledge of the facts and the person. Whether than can win or not is not very much of a consideration.

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    Great reason to find someone else to vote for or to not vote at all.
     
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    Billions of dollars were thrown around last election cycle. With a b. It's not that there's not enough money around, it's that currently it would be a poor investment - you're guaranteed more bang for buck funding one of the two major parties. Until there's a viable third party that has about even representation, it'll be money better spent elsewhere (in their minds).

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    I would and have voted for a third party candidate whose beliefs were more align with mine. I've also voted for Democrats and Republicans on a state/local level, depending on the candidate. I have never blindly voted all D or all R - now that is a wasted vote.
     

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