IMHO the ONLY reason the WWDC was announced yesterday was because ( don't laugh ) the exact dates were leaked earlier.Jobs hates when that happens.It has nothing to do with the deal between the two Apples.
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WWDC 2007 'Save the Date' Invites with Leopard Theme
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There was not a video for ALL the features... Core Animation, Spotlight didn't have a video and I don't think iCal was even one of the "features". iCal is probably one of the worst Apps included in OS X... lame.
whatever, I can totally wait.
When Tiger came out there were SO many threads about...wa wa Tiger screwed up this, and Tiger screwed up that....so I don't know what all the rush is about.
For the record my Tiger experience has been smooth sailing from 10.4 on.
Now what about iLife 07....or maybe they should call it iLife 07.5 cuz that's what it's gonna be soon.
When Tiger came out there were SO many threads about...wa wa Tiger screwed up this, and Tiger screwed up that....so I don't know what all the rush is about.
For the record my Tiger experience has been smooth sailing from 10.4 on.
Now what about iLife 07....or maybe they should call it iLife 07.5 cuz that's what it's gonna be soon.
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Is the the bottom of http://www.apple.com/ redesigned or am I going crazy?
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Leopardish? maybe?
I could have sworn when you hovered over the hotnews headlines before,that they would go white and not gray.
Is the the bottom of http://www.apple.com/ redesigned or am I going crazy?
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Leopardish? maybe?
I could have sworn when you hovered over the hotnews headlines before,that they would go white and not gray.
Spring 2007 means sometime before the summer solstice which means anytime after 20 March 2007 and before 21 June 2007. Leopard could be released at WWDC 2007 and still technically be released in the Spring of 2007. I won't be holding my breath till then.
Chundles, I think your sarcasm detector needs re-calibrating.
It's 3:30am and I'm trying to get my apartment packed by 8am - my sarcasm meter has been turned off for the duration of the move.
Just be careful because the longer it's turned off the more devastating the result when switched back on.
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Is the the bottom of http://www.apple.com/ redesigned or am I going crazy?
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Leopardish? maybe?
yeah, I think your right. I'm really diggin' the overall darker tone of Apple's UI these days. The super simple, black and white inner-app floating tools like in QT Pro, and full-screen mode in iPhoto do a great job of spotlighting, or rather not distracting from your the video and photos. I hope that Final Cut Pro gets a Aperture style makeover. It's floating, modular feel is a-ok in my book.
I was hoping for an earlier release than June... as long as it's stable and ready to use, I guess that is what matters most. Now as for iLife, I better not have to wait that long! Come on, Apple. I need iLife updates!
you're gonna have to wait.I firmly believe iLife07' is an integral part of Leopard.
Unfort I have the sense iLife, iWork and Leopard will all be released together in June, as they most likely have similar new qualities and features that Mr. Jobs wants hidden for a big reveal...
On another note, that WWDC invite looks like something out of a Star Trek convention. Any one else a little weary that the new OS interface will look a bit freakish if it is in line with Time Machine and said invite?
A bit off-topic, but...
Well 'jamming' - no.
You can't make time happen faster than it does, which is what garageband would have to do to jam in real-time.
Even small amounts of data such as midi streams have latencies that make live jamming impossible. Large amounts of data, like multiple streams of full quality audio are not even close to practical. I know a guy here in Brisbane who, some years ago - I think early 90s, worked on developing a midi jam program (complete with animated 3D figurines of the players!!), but of course the connection speeds back then were a huge bottleneck. He said if he's going to venture into it again, it would be a more multimedia - focused concert, with the musical interaction limited to more textural and harmonic ideas, rather than rhythmic stuff, which would be ruined by lag.
HOWEVER...your garageband idea is interesting in that near-live streaming could be harnessed for recording purposes, where real-time interaction isn't necessary, but a constant, reliable audio stream is.
It'd basically be skype, but much higher quality.
Some time off I think, but recording a drum track in Brisbane for a Sydney studio who receives and syncs the audio seconds later would be real hip. (I'm a drummer btw)
Well 'jamming' - no.
You can't make time happen faster than it does, which is what garageband would have to do to jam in real-time.
Even small amounts of data such as midi streams have latencies that make live jamming impossible. Large amounts of data, like multiple streams of full quality audio are not even close to practical. I know a guy here in Brisbane who, some years ago - I think early 90s, worked on developing a midi jam program (complete with animated 3D figurines of the players!!), but of course the connection speeds back then were a huge bottleneck. He said if he's going to venture into it again, it would be a more multimedia - focused concert, with the musical interaction limited to more textural and harmonic ideas, rather than rhythmic stuff, which would be ruined by lag.
HOWEVER...your garageband idea is interesting in that near-live streaming could be harnessed for recording purposes, where real-time interaction isn't necessary, but a constant, reliable audio stream is.
It'd basically be skype, but much higher quality.
Some time off I think, but recording a drum track in Brisbane for a Sydney studio who receives and syncs the audio seconds later would be real hip. (I'm a drummer btw)
The graphic is indeed extremely star-trekky...too bad the theme song now reminds me of that hummer commercial...
But please please please don't let iphone hijack WWDC...I know it says 'developer', but i'm still concerned. Widescreen ipod? sure, introduce that, but I'll probably never have $500 for a phone
If leopard isn't released until june it would be...lousy, but as long as it doesn't disappoint on features and does away with the godawful gumdrop-traffic light buttons, I'll still love ol' stevie.
by june i might finally be able to afford a mac pro, so i suppose it might be nice timing. lower that generic 4 core MP to $2000 by then and i might even try aperture instead of lightroom.
I bet i'd be more bitter if i made more money and could afford that mac pro today.
But please please please don't let iphone hijack WWDC...I know it says 'developer', but i'm still concerned. Widescreen ipod? sure, introduce that, but I'll probably never have $500 for a phone
If leopard isn't released until june it would be...lousy, but as long as it doesn't disappoint on features and does away with the godawful gumdrop-traffic light buttons, I'll still love ol' stevie.
by june i might finally be able to afford a mac pro, so i suppose it might be nice timing. lower that generic 4 core MP to $2000 by then and i might even try aperture instead of lightroom.
I bet i'd be more bitter if i made more money and could afford that mac pro today.
iChat can be signed on, but the program itself closed. If someone IM's you, it automatically opens iChat and displays the IM. It's been in OS X since at least 10.3
D'oh, oops, you know what I meant.
Anyway, as long as Leopard is shipping by August 15, along with updated MacBooks with GMA3000 I will be happy. I need a new laptop for school and MacBooks should be updated around April - June timeframe.
Maybe aluminum MacBooks, in all the iPod colors, oooh...
Does this mean the beginning of "Should I wait until June...?" threads!
Start your typing!
I am gonna wait anyways till June to get my iMac, if I can wait that long. I feel like they will release these things before June and touch base with them in June. With news like this, Apple wouldn't want to lose possible sales and "switchers" to Vista because people got tired of waiting for Apple's new releases. If anything, June will show some updates to the Pro's and maybe laptops/mini's but not the iMac. Those seem too new in hardware to have a bump (last september if I read correctly).
Start your typing!
I am gonna wait anyways till June to get my iMac, if I can wait that long. I feel like they will release these things before June and touch base with them in June. With news like this, Apple wouldn't want to lose possible sales and "switchers" to Vista because people got tired of waiting for Apple's new releases. If anything, June will show some updates to the Pro's and maybe laptops/mini's but not the iMac. Those seem too new in hardware to have a bump (last september if I read correctly).
OMG! That's the clue!
As everyone knows, Star Trek was the code name for a version of Mac OS that would run on generic PCs in the early nineties. It was cancelled for various reasons.
This has to mean that they're releasing Mac OS X for generic PCs next Tuesday! Isn't it obvious?!!?!
Powerbook G5s and iPhones at WWDC!!!1!
I think the delays have a lot to do with a planned migration to a multitouch UI. It should be evident to anyone who has closely studied Mac's product development cycles that Apple's iPhone is testing the waters of a very powerful type of user interface which allows gestures, sometimes referred to as "chording".
Think of the pre-crime computer in "Minority Report" minus the holography and gloves. That is where I believe Mac and Mac OS are headed very soon. Leopard may be the first significant step in the direction of EXACTLY that type of user interface. Jeff Han of NYU demonstrated this quite clearly at the TED conference with his live demonstration on large multitouch user interfaces that has been doing the rounds on YouTube.
At any rate, I've spoken with a few engineers, one of whom used to work for Apple, and they're not surprised that Apple may be testing prototypes of multitouch iMacs as we speak.
The patents are certainly in place, the UI definitely shows signs of moving toward a more three-dimensional design. It's just a matter of when the product will hit the market.
That announcement *could* come as early as WWDC. It's not at all inconceivable... the multitouch technology is already here. Apple's already releasing one product with it, and they started developing it several years ago... which means by now they're almost certainly testing prototypes of larger scale multitouch interfaces running OS prototypes.
Anyone who thinks they're not thinking this far ahead is easily forgetting how they stunned the world when they revealed, after announcing the Intel Macs, that OS X had already been coded as dual binaries since 10.1.
It certainly would explain a lot of the latency and secrecy around Leopard... and it fits with their product strategy.
Besides, Guy Kawasaki once said among their many other strengths, their strategic advantage is their focus industrial design... on just making "cool stuff" that people want to use. So, if the reason is as simple as "Multitouch, because we can"... Apple's there, and there's an ulterior motive that Steve Jobs has been gunning for ever since he came back on board. They could be preparing to leverage the Multitouch Mac as a deathblow in response to Microsoft's feeble attempt to catch up with Vista.
Think of the pre-crime computer in "Minority Report" minus the holography and gloves. That is where I believe Mac and Mac OS are headed very soon. Leopard may be the first significant step in the direction of EXACTLY that type of user interface. Jeff Han of NYU demonstrated this quite clearly at the TED conference with his live demonstration on large multitouch user interfaces that has been doing the rounds on YouTube.
At any rate, I've spoken with a few engineers, one of whom used to work for Apple, and they're not surprised that Apple may be testing prototypes of multitouch iMacs as we speak.
The patents are certainly in place, the UI definitely shows signs of moving toward a more three-dimensional design. It's just a matter of when the product will hit the market.
That announcement *could* come as early as WWDC. It's not at all inconceivable... the multitouch technology is already here. Apple's already releasing one product with it, and they started developing it several years ago... which means by now they're almost certainly testing prototypes of larger scale multitouch interfaces running OS prototypes.
Anyone who thinks they're not thinking this far ahead is easily forgetting how they stunned the world when they revealed, after announcing the Intel Macs, that OS X had already been coded as dual binaries since 10.1.
It certainly would explain a lot of the latency and secrecy around Leopard... and it fits with their product strategy.
Besides, Guy Kawasaki once said among their many other strengths, their strategic advantage is their focus industrial design... on just making "cool stuff" that people want to use. So, if the reason is as simple as "Multitouch, because we can"... Apple's there, and there's an ulterior motive that Steve Jobs has been gunning for ever since he came back on board. They could be preparing to leverage the Multitouch Mac as a deathblow in response to Microsoft's feeble attempt to catch up with Vista.
so does this mean that leopard isn't coming out until june 11??? cuz thats gonna suck...i'm buying my mbp or whatever is top of the line at that time in like may or early june and i don't want the first one to come out...i wanna wait for them to work out the kinks
Either that or really long lines, as the access will be serial.Unparalleled, eh?
Maybe this indicates an Apple-developed replacement for Parallels...
Not true.
I use Leopard and can use Time Machine every month.Leopard for Devs has been out for a while now.
