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WWDC Kicks Off on Monday: Mac OS X Lion, iOS 5 and iCloud
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I don't get the comparison. Android is storming the masses and general consumer base. Ubuntu is still a geeks only OS. Walk into a room of 5,000 people and ask them to raise their hands if they know about Android. Almost everyone will raise their hand. Ubuntu.... crickets.
Android is more like Windows of late 1980s. It wasn't there... it came... it was everywhere.... and never went away. Ubuntu has been sitting in obscurity since day 1.
I agree with the OP. Apple is never going to compete. It's a numbers thing. Even if they released 2-3 iPhone models a year, they are going up against 100-300 new android devices per year. A slider iPhone... hey jobs...
Same here, I moved from 3G right to 4. Every 2 years seems a sensible refresh timeline [for consumers], unless there's a hardware feature you desperately need.
I think the notification system is the big item here, they're definitely behind there. Other than that, who knows, they could surprise with more wide-reaching iOS UI changes, but would it be improvement or just change for change sake?
Not every product Apple releases is for everyone. It doesn't have to be. Would I like access to my entire music library everywhere? Sure. But that's me. If you don't care much about music, or if you don't have guaranteed connection, it may not matter to you.
As one of the guys on Angry Mac Bastards said, people need to develop a bit more selective apathy. Care about the things you care about, and don't expel any thought or energy on things that you don't.
Agreed. IMO I'd like to see a major overhaul of the entire UI...its starting to feel dated and tweaks to gradients and the traffic lights simply aren't enough. It just looks very tired now.
I'd also like to see a new UI tomorrow along with a launch later in the year, heck maybe even in January. I just hope they don't rush this through just go get it up and out for WWDC! The last few OSX releases have been very uninspiring and just provide minor tweaks. Even Leopard didn't really add much in the way of core functionality other than search tweaks and a few select features used by a minority of users.
Oh of course there will be the carrier greed. Especially if the idiots that are supposed to regulate monopolies allow the AT&T/T-Mobile merger. The more battery friendly chips coming this fall are already outdated though. Someone is already trying to outdo them.
Does LTE run in concert with GSM? (I know CDMA does not). Could that give AT&T devices better battery life not switching antennas all the time?
I was comparing it towards your statement that Android will be polished in a year or two. People said the same thing about Ubuntu - that it would be polished in the future. Never happened. I don't think Android will be polished in one or two years, it usually don't work that way. Either you polish it day one or you don't at all.
You can't cash a check with market share, Apple has the profit in the mobile industry which is what really matters. Android may well be very popular in raw numbers but in mind share and profit it won't be a huge issue for Apple.
I agree. I dont actually think it would even be possible for Apple to attempt to compete.
Heres the thing. Apple may start at the top when they introduce a new product, but once everyone else catches up several years later, Apple gets swept under the carpet. Just like the Mac. Eventually Android will take the face of smart phones and an iPhone will be a Mac of the computer world: A desired device, but not something you 'MUST' have. The only way Apple will change this is with multiple models, releases, etc...which I don't think they would be capable of....its not in their nature.
That wasn't my statement, but now I get it. Sorry misunderstood the comparison. And I completely agree. Though it's funny to me with Honeycomb Google is pushing refinement and consistency, yet still leaving the cluster F(#)%# with mobile phones. Google never polishes anything they do really. For all the tech and offerings they point out, no matter how useful they are, they always come off as clunky. Like Google Docs. Ever upgrade still leaves you saying WTF?
With respect, its Apples and Oranges. They cant be compared in any way at all. It'd be like comparing MS office with StarOffice.
Ubuntu is an OS with very little coverage. It doesn't have the apps people need. It doesn't have the backing of a well known body, etc.
Android has an active marketplace full of apps by known developers. It's backed by a household name, etc.
In addition, how many computers do you see in BestBuy running Ubuntu? Now how many phones in BestBuy do you see with Android on them?
See where I'm going here? They really aren't comparable in the slightest.
Agreed!
I think Apple's biggest problem is the minor incremental updates they do, and then tout them as something NEW AND EXCITING. It goes back to basic phone features like MMS and how long it took to include such basic things that should have been there at launch. Same with hardware. I see the marketing strategy in there, but they need to step it up a bit. In the time it takes to get 1 IOS refresh, Google puts out 2-3 with major changes and updates.
This year Widgets are going to be a hot feature (if the rumor is true). Widgets??? Something every other phone already has? Even basic messaging devices? (Face slap.) However, I am holding out hope that IOS5 will leave us with our tongues hanging out, but I'm also a realist that won't be disappointed if it lacks any wow factor.
NEW TWITTER INTEGRATION!!! ZOMG!! I for one cannot wait for iOS 5 to finally have twitter integration!
/end sarcasm
iOS 5 is probably going to fail if out of the top 3 upgrades, twitter integration is one of them...le sigh...
/end sarcasm
iOS 5 is probably going to fail if out of the top 3 upgrades, twitter integration is one of them...le sigh...
Yeah, Google likes to get things out as quickly as possible and they count on people's willingness to use them because they are free, not because they're great which is Apple's approach.
Android is well spread but it's not well known, the majority of Android users have no clue they are using Android. As for apps, Linux has apps that match their more well known counterparts but much like Android apps they are not as good as the competition. Android apps are there but no Android app is as polished and functional as iOS apps.
I'm still vainly praying to the live stream gods. A perfect way to test out the new data center, perhaps? 
I wonder how Apple decides whether to do a stream or not. If they are not confident that their servers can handle it, or they don't want to incur the costs, why not charge a small access fee? I'd totally pay $5 to watch it.
I wonder how Apple decides whether to do a stream or not. If they are not confident that their servers can handle it, or they don't want to incur the costs, why not charge a small access fee? I'd totally pay $5 to watch it.
My job would start tomorrow...
Stupid "work."
Stupid "work."
I'll never understand the determined hatred some people have for social networking.
I hope...
I am very excitedbto hear whats new. Not big on twitter, just not my not my thing. Cloud = very cool, I hope and OS 5. Very excited for Lion. With no date on FCX I would love to just hear a street date. Such as "Lion will cone out June 22nd......and Final Cut X will be the first powerful app to be used day 1 with Lion." something like that. Just please one sentence on FCX all I ask.
This should be a great show, I live near SF, to bad I can't go!
I am very excitedbto hear whats new. Not big on twitter, just not my not my thing. Cloud = very cool, I hope and OS 5. Very excited for Lion. With no date on FCX I would love to just hear a street date. Such as "Lion will cone out June 22nd......and Final Cut X will be the first powerful app to be used day 1 with Lion." something like that. Just please one sentence on FCX all I ask.
This should be a great show, I live near SF, to bad I can't go!
I believe Maverick's point was not that Twitter integration would make iOS 5 a fail, but that the OS would be a flop if Twitter integration is a top new feature. Most people would hope that after a year Apple would have more to offer than simply the addition of a social network to their mobile operating system. I would agree with this. But, we'll see what tomorrow holds.
Im betting Microsoft they did it to google this year with the purchase of Skype right before Google IO.