X800 Availability?

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  1. AcetoneCM macrumors newbie

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    Does anyone have any idea when the ATI X800 is coming to the mac. I know ATI showed a working version of it a while back, but did they announce availability. I've been waiting so the price will drop on the 9800 pro. $350 is a little much. Plus the dvi to adc adaptor! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. patseguin macrumors 65816

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    I'm curious about this too as my 6800 Ultra was a big fat waste of money.
     
  3. jared_kipe macrumors 68030

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    But would the X800 be able to drive 2 30" displays?
     
  4. patseguin macrumors 65816

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    Doesn't matter to me since I don't $7,000 to spend on them. :)

    If they were going to release a 5200 card with a different name just to drive the 30" they should have mentioned that. I suppose that would be for a different thread though since I am going off topic.
     
  5. Rezet macrumors 6502a

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    Because?

    Look, I said it before, and I say it again: If you expected some miracle performance with 6800 in ANY game. Yes it was a waste. 6800 is hardware, and as always is only a part of equation. Drivers will get updated for nvidia, I'm sure. It still is the best you can have right now. And frankly, for open GL, from all the tests I've seen, you will want to stick with 6800.
    X800 is DX power, not so much of OGL.
    From Lightwave work, 6800 even for pc blows X800XT PE away.



    http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1634119,00.asp
     
  6. Laslo Panaflex macrumors 65816

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    My guess is that ATI will announce it at Macworld in January. ATI has already showed it off in public this October, it was running one 30in display and one old plastic 23in display. It is said to have one Dual DVI port, to power the 30in, and one ADC port. The MacCentral article on it can be found here:

    http://www.macworld.com/news/2004/10/14/ati/index.php
     
  7. patseguin macrumors 65816

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  8. ZildjianKX macrumors 68000

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    You can't be serious... Upgrading from my crappy 9600 Pro to my 9800 Pro I could easily get twice the framerates and games ran sooo much better. With your 6800 Ultra upgraded from a 9600 Pro, you would have to see at least the performance gain of a Radeon 9800 at the worst... :confused:
     
  9. Rezet macrumors 6502a

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    My guess is he is basing that on one poorly made Mac game. Perhaps WOW? ;)
     
  10. vraxtus macrumors 65816

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    hehehe all you guys that bought the 6800 got owned :D
     
  11. patseguin macrumors 65816

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    Admittedly, yes. ;)

    However, some other games like Dungeon Siege and UT2004 perform just like they did on my 9600 Pro. UT 2004 may be marginally better, but hardly a revolutionary increase as Jobs hinted at the WWDC. The consensus I seem to be hearing is that Apple and nVidia rushed it out to be ready for the 30" release and packaged it with 5200 drivers. I guess time will tell since I am stuck with it anyways...
     
  12. benpatient macrumors 68000

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    my 6600 GT comes in on monday morning for my PC....

    *drool*

    By all accounts, I'll be getting more than 2.5x the performance of my 9600 Pro, straight out of the box.

    ATI had better step up to the plate, because their 300 dollar 9800 XT can't run convincingly with the 200 dollar 6600 GT...and ATI hasn't put out an AGP solution for the ±200 dollar range this generation, and they are falling behind.
     
  13. MacsRgr8 macrumors 604

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    Not yet....

    I am one of those 6800 Ultra buyers (who didn't buy it for the 30" display, but for performance hopes), and am waiting for Doom 3 before bashing it. ;)

    10.3.7 could see some drastic improvements, and I surely hope 10.4 will....

    Oh well.. at least my "forever waiting" for this card is over. :rolleyes:
    I got it from the AppleStore Regent Street the weekend it opened.
     
  14. Timelessblur macrumors 65816

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    well Mac will never get an X800 for there system.

    Reason being is the X800 has been discountined and replace by the X850 so it not all a big loss
     
  15. applekid macrumors 68020

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    Source? I see no proof of that anywhere.

    I sense a little trolling in that message though.
     
  16. benpatient macrumors 68000

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    well, he could be wrong about the x800 coming to the mac, but he's right about it being replaced by the x850...not that there is much difference between the various x800s and the various x850s...just small GPU and RAM speed bumps, basically.
     
  17. Timelessblur macrumors 65816

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    hence the reason that the Mac will never get the x800 they would just jump it and got right to the x850. Why waste the money on delvopling something for the Mac.
     
  18. applekid macrumors 68020

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    I see what you mean. I read your previous reply incorrectly (and I suspected I did.) My bad. :eek:

    But, yes, if the X850 is top of the line, let's get on the bandwagon.

    And to reply to whoever asked about running two 30" displays: I remember reading somewhere that it indeed had the capability to power two 30" displays. Not too shabby.
     
  19. benpatient macrumors 68000

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    while that would normally be sound logic, the past doesn't imply such logic is appropriate in Apple's case.

    I have one thing to say in defense of my statement.

    5200 "Ultra" 64mb version.

    On the dual Processor G5.

    Still.
     
  20. Converted2Truth macrumors 6502a

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    According to what i've read, the ATI X800 mac will only push ONE 30". It does have two connections though... ADC(apple oldschool studio/cinema) and DVI (for the 30" and newer linup monitors).
     
  21. MacsRgr8 macrumors 604

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    ADC = AppleOldSkool... :D

    I too have read that the X800 Mac version has one DUAL DVI and one ADC output.

    But could the ADC be DUAL DVI compatible? Use the cheap ADC to DVI converter to attach the second 30".

    If it can do this, then this card is everybody's best friend:
    -Better performance due to better drivers than nVidia's
    -Also capable of running two 30"s
    -Can use the ageing ( :D ) ADC monitors without extra hardware.
     

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