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Discussion in 'MacRumors News Discussion (archive)' started by arn, May 14, 2002.
Steve Jobs giving his Presentation
Photo of XServe RAID
Photo of XServe with motherboard open
1. "Well it's about time!"
3. OMG...! Cluster farms.. render farms... OMG!
The raid looks so promissing, I just hope it supports raid 4!
That RAID looked nice, I wonder what the configuration was that Steve was posing with.
Is it me, but does Steve look a little older, more tired in these shots? Maybe because he wasn't smiling in the close up. And his jeans were looking a little saggy.....
I just checked out the Xserve on www.apple.com . . . amazing! The part that blew me away was this number: 630, and this word: gigaflops.
Now, I do not mean to sound so unintelligent, but how do rack mount servers work in general? Can you actually have all of these racks serve as just one computer or what?
I mean, I have heard of rack mount servers, but I really am not sure how they work.
Any time is a great time for iPod.
Yeah Steve doesn't look so hot. Especially in the third photo--the shot really accentuates his receding and greying hairline.
I wonder at what point, Steve will a) get tired of it and quit or b) bring Apple to a comfort level that he feels secure enough to pass the reigns. I say, if and when Apple closes the megahertz gap, attains close to 10% market share, and diversifies the product line enough so that Apple gets a fair chunk of its income through nonPC products (like the iPod), Steve can safely pass the reigns. Until then, I fear for Apple the day Steve decides to kick it.
higher quality pictures are available here:
Damn, those are high res images. I now have a new background, very nice...
Sweet! ::drool:: They should have an emoticon with a long slimey piece of drool hanging out of it's mouth, so I don't have to type it Yeah, Steve does look kinda tired, to tell you the truth, I don't think he knows how much we appreciate him! I think we should try to do something to let him know like 'Steve Jobs Appreciation Week' or soemthing
whats with the bottom one on this pic? it looks like a 3U server. Did that come out today as well? any details?
As i read (i just got home) i see that that is Xserver RAID, duh.; didnt think bout that before but they both look kool.
Oh... My... God...
These machines make me want to nut.
Now I just need a few hundred Gs to drop on a kickass cluster, and find some lone loony programmer to develop an AI, and I will take over the world!
I heard people complaining about the last G4 Sever's unability to be rack-mounted for professional reasons because the HDs wouldn't be horizontal, which would cause damage over a long time. Now, in the Xserve RAID, there are 14 nice drives... but vertical! Does anybody know whether this is really all that bad or not? I mean I can imagine it's not quite good for a HD to be like that 24/7...
How about if I wrote a really nice letter to Steve Jobs asking if he'd like to adopt a nephew. I really think he could turn out to be a very kind man, great for discussing those hard to scratch configuration problems...
"Kind Uncle Stevie?.... what will happen to your old computer when your G6 arrives next week."
At cnet.com there are two movies linked right on the front page. First is 5 minutes or so from the actual keynote speech (I don't know if this is a real keynote, but for lack of better words I'll just say "keynote") and the other video is David Coursey interviewing Phil Schiller about the product. It's kinda cool.
good timing...compaq just got bought out and apple does have this window of opportunity in the server market
Re: Xserve RAID
It's not an issue. I recall years ago reading a report about how just the opposite was true...drives would last longer if they were verticle, but the result in the survey were pretty much inconclusive.
I think hard drives can handle themselves a bit better these days, but just to make sure, I take care to ensure that my iPod is always on the level
Isn't it strange to see this kind of gear on the Apple Web site. They're reaching out to a whole new audience, where all the neat design thinking of Ives and marketing of Jobs will not cut them much slack. Even their beautiful Aqua interface will not have much significance for a Rack Mount server.
OS X's UNIX pedigree does present Apple with an opportunity, but whether they stand a chance against more established and proven Linux solutions remains to be seen.
It would be great to see Apple have some success in this area though.
Xserve RAID info?
I can't seem to find any information about the Xserve RAID anywhere on the Apple site. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
(Not that I can afford one - they start at $6750 down under)
So who's getting some for their business?
I'd love to, but I think my G4 933 is plenty fast for what I do!
Man, I just can't stop thinking about how good it would be to have a full rack of those babies... *drool*
So far there are three apple products announced:
1) Xserve 1U (apple.com's front page)
2) Xserve 3U (the bigger, 12 disk older brother with insane HD caches)
3) RAID Xserve (some multi-terybite box apple is planning for people with a LOT of files. I hear it uses the high-speed fiberoptic port, but I would assume dual FireWire ports would be a connectivity optiopn.)
one more thing...
For people really exicited I posted my desktop pictures of the Xserve on my web page:
It's the link called "Xserve Desktops" or something, too lazy to check. They're pretty much high-res copies of the uber-cool apple.com post.
(edited for a working link)
WHats this 3U one you speak of? I though that was the RAID in the pic at the top of this thread..and i thought it was actually meant to be 4U
FibreChannel uses fiber or copper. Not a chance you would see dual FireWire on the XServe. FireWire just isn't fast enough or fits the requirements. FibreChannel scales from 266mb/s to over 4gbps. Supports distances up to 10km. Supports point-to-point, loop hub, or switched topologies. Guaranteed delivery (something that gigabit ethernet, atm, and firewire don't provide), etc, etc.