Especially Rower_CPU! OK, I felt the need to share this with you guys... A buddy of mine is starting up a webpage. He doesn't know anything about webdesign, so he asked a friend of his to help him out. Apparently she's really knowledgeable about Flash, web design and stuff like that and has a bunch of experience. The progress has been slow, but he showed me the ULTRA-Preliminary design: http://www.lmpdesign.com/lc/ Again, this is ultra-preliminary, but I think it looks pretty good. I checked out the code and surprise, surprise, nothing but tables. So, I was telling him about CSS and how he had to get his friend on board with it... well, he was kinda blowing me off so I whipped together my own version of his page: http://www.brianellisrules.com/temp/lc/ I think it looks pretty close... and notice the difference in the code! haha. Yeah, this really isn't relevant to anything, but I felt the need to share anyway.