You Starcraft players out there...

Discussion in 'Games' started by macbwizard, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. macbwizard macrumors 6502

    macbwizard

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    Does anyone know of an APM (actions per minute) calculator for Starcraft on Mac OS X. Lots of programs like this exist for windows (bwchart for example) but I have yet to find one for mac. Thanks

    -MacBWizard
     
  2. jared_kipe macrumors 68030

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    What exactly does it do, and why for? But I know of none.
     
  3. xparaparafreakx macrumors 65816

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    I played SC since the beginning but never heard of APM
     
  4. macbwizard thread starter macrumors 6502

    macbwizard

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    -from here
     
  5. joecool85 macrumors 65816

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    Same here. I was actually just playing yesterday.
     
  6. capsLOCK macrumors newbie

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    I beleive it measures how many actions (ex: move a guy, create a building, train a marine, ect.) you do per minute. The theory is, the more APM you do, you are generally a better player (obviously this depends). I think I saw somewhere that most really good players have around 110 APM, but I'm not sure.
     
  7. jared_kipe macrumors 68030

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    110 clicks or actions per minute is pretty insane, you must just be clicking all around looking at crap all the time. If youre truly good, then you should know exactly what you're doing before you do it and not have to click more than once every 5 seconds or more in the beginning.
     
  8. xelterran macrumors 6502

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    woot an apm thread!

    APM is a measurement of how many actions-per-minute you make in a replay. You need BWChart from http://www.bwchart.com unfortunatly no one has ported it to mac yet . .

    110 is pretty average, many top Korean players have 240 - 450+apm (average).
     
  9. Palad1 macrumors 6502a

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    If you want to do any kind of micromanagement you have to click on each little guy (zerglings) like crazy. Wait for a zerg in a pack to get attacked by a group, send the pack in, move the zergling out, rinse, repeat...
     
  10. RedTomato macrumors 68040

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    Had a quick look at the website.

    Says most 'actions' are actually hotkey presses / keyboard shortcuts, so yeah I guess you could do 400+ per minute.

    tho it says any more than 150 -200 per minute are usually wasted effort, and unneccessary. I suppose thats the average number. I could see a peak being 400 at tense moments, but not right through a game!

    Dude, its just a game! (oh...) why am I sarting to feel that some modern computer games need a PhD to play well??

    For a MMORPG, to become an 'expert' the amount of information you need to absorb probably isn't far off a undergrad degree....

    I know which skillset I'd rather aquire....

    RedTomato
     
  11. Dagless macrumors Core

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    i'd like a RedTomato skillset too :(
     
  12. HiRez macrumors 603

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    450 per minute is 7.5 per second, how is that possible? If I were a carpal-tunnel surgeon I would scour the top competitive Starcraft player list and spam for patients!
     
  13. Palad1 macrumors 6502a

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    I think 450 apm is peak performance, it's hardly sustainable.
     
  14. trailblazer macrumors member

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    I've read about a couple paid pro's who make about 6 moves a second.
     
  15. steelfist macrumors 6502a

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    making 400 aps by moving zerglings around the hachary is very productive :rolleyes: seriously. it really depends on what you do with your units too. there are such things as STRATEGIES that help, not by actions alone. APS just increases the poetential productivity of the gamer, but nobody can make use of it perfectly.

    i think its a stupid competition and evaluation. Ladders are a lot more accurate. :rolleyes:
     
  16. RedTomato macrumors 68040

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    Hmm, how about a RedTomato skillet?

    Sorry, they're all sold out. How about a RedTomato Casserole ?

    cheers

    RedTomato
     
  17. OLD ELPASO macrumors member

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    Micro

    Well these Starcraft guys must have some insane micro. I just played some Zero Hour online at my friends PC, holy crap those guys have insane micros.... They could take all starcraft players to school
     

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