1,000 shot in Chicago so far this year

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-000-shot-chicago-far-215930549.html
Chicago (AFP) - Chicago hit a grim milestone Tuesday, with more than a thousand people shot in the Midwestern US city since the beginning of the year.

According to the Chicago Tribune newspaper 1,008 people have been shot in the city -- at least 182 fatally -- since the beginning of January, a pace roughly unchanged since the same period last year.

The largest city in the Midwest has been struggling with a stubbornly high murder rate that peaked at more than 750 last year, the highest in two decades.
wonder what it will take to change course there?
 

jkcerda

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Build better relationships between the police and the communities they work in would be a good start. Also cutting down on the illegal flow of guns from Indiana would be helpful to reduce shootings.
wonder what their unemployment numbers are and if it's affordable to get an education there.
 

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And - an idle question this, - would that extraordinary statistic (I know of no country in Europe - let alone a single, solitary, city in that continent - which would have such statistics, barely a third into the year) - have anything whatsoever to do with the - um - availability of guns, and the right to bear them, buy them, own them, and - er - use them?
 

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And - an idle question this, - would that extraordinary statistic (I know of no country in Europe - let alone a single, solitary, city in that continent - which would have such statistics, barely a third into the year) - have anything whatsoever to do with the - um - availability of guns, and the right to bear them, buy them, own them, and - er - use them?
Chicago is pretty strict when it comes to guns. guns are not the problem, criminals are .so the question really is how do you give them something to do other than crime.
 

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And - an idle question this, - would that extraordinary statistic (I know of no country in Europe - let alone a single, solitary, city in that continent - which would have such statistics, barely a third into the year) - have anything whatsoever to do with the - um - availability of guns, and the right to bear them, buy them, own them, and - er - use them?
The NRA will have you believe that all gun owners are godly, upstanding, responsible individuals but (and I don't want to scare the youngsters out there) there are people who will sell guns for a profit to anyone. So even though Chicago has gun laws, Chicago is not a tiny island in the Pacific, it is surrounded by states that hand out guns to all takers -- who then sell guns to anyone who pays.
 

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The NRA will have you believe that all gun owners are godly, upstanding, responsible individuals but (and I don't want to scare the youngsters out there) there are people who will sell guns for a profit to anyone. So even though Chicago has gun laws, Chicago is not a tiny island in the Pacific, it is surrounded by states that hand out guns to all takers -- who then sell guns to anyone who pays.
so laws are not stopping criminals? no way.............
 

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And - an idle question this, - would that extraordinary statistic (I know of no country in Europe - let alone a single, solitary, city in that continent - which would have such statistics, barely a third into the year) - have anything whatsoever to do with the - um - availability of guns, and the right to bear them, buy them, own them, and - er - use them?
The same crap is not happening in other cities in the region or next door in Indiana. The surrounding states have deep respect for the 2nd Amendment and liberal laws concerning ownership and carrying. Unlike Chicago, they do not experience anything approaching the violence there. Get rid of the ruling regime there would be a step in the right direction, as would police reform. Doing something about the West Side and South Side gangs would be a major step. Not sure what can be done about the gang culture in those parts of the city, but they are the source of the shootings. All of them are armed to the teeth and would rather face jail than death at the hands of a rival gang member.
Vice ran a piece on them just a day or so ago that was very enlightening. Things to remember. It's not the guns that are the problem. It's the politicians who kick the can down the road. It's the gangs. The lack of jobs, (back to the politicians on that one). And lack of decent education.

 

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Chris Rock's solution: we need bullet control.
They have ammunition control in Illinoid. It doesn't work. Neither would Rock's idea.
License to Purchase/Possess Ammunition

Illinois requires residents to obtain a Firearm Owner’s Identification (“FOID”) card before they can lawfully purchase or possess ammunition.1 No person may transfer firearm ammunition in Illinois unless the transferee displays a currently valid FOID card.2

For detailed information on the requirements for a FOID card, see Licensing of Gun Owners & Purchasers in Illinois section.

Any resident purchasing ammunition outside the state must provide the seller with a copy of his or her valid FOID card and either his or her Illinois driver’s license or Illinois State Identification card prior to the shipment of the ammunition. The ammunition may be shipped only to an address on either of those two documents.3

Persons Prohibited from Purchasing or Possessing Ammunition

Illinois prohibit the purchase or possession of ammunition by the same categories of persons who are ineligible to purchase or possess firearms under state law.4

Federal ammunition purchaser prohibitions also apply.

Minimum Age to Purchase or Possess Ammunition

Illinois generally prohibits persons under age 21 from obtaining a FOID card, which is required to purchase or possess ammunition.5 A person under age 21 must have the written consent of a parent or legal guardian to purchase ammunition.6
 
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As Juan Karachi said, it's criminals, not gun use. Criminals have been on the rise in Chicago major for decades now. A growing upper class and lower/working class with a diminishing middle class is the cause. I'm rather thankful these criminals can't aim well, otherwise the amount of fatalities would be higher.
 

jkcerda

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As Juan Karachi said, it's criminals, not gun use. Criminals have been on the rise in Chicago major for decades now. A growing upper class and lower/working class with a diminishing middle class is the cause. I'm rather thankful these criminals can't aim well, otherwise the amount of fatalities would be higher.
But the fatalities of innocent people would be less