By the way Motorola and Apple are talking in press releases, etc., I am under the impression that the G4 will be upgraded in March, as Apple tries to "catch up" to Intel. If this is the case, then they better get the bus speed up. And, since the new processors are apollos, a move to 1.2GHz in March would allow for the bump to a faster bus. For example: Currently, only the 1GHz processor is an Apollo. If Apple could drop this model to its entry model for March, then they could offer the 1.2GHz model at the top. As both would then be Apollos, Apple could offer higher bus speeds to give users a reason to buy the PowerMac again (let's face it, even the dual 1GHz machine is still no real bargain in the face of the new iMac). This would allow further development of the G5 for a release in January of 2003, or maybe if we are lucky, July or September 2002. The way things are shaping up, Apple might have a good year or two.