10 political gurus analyze Hillary's soul-crushing New Hampshire defeat

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    How did she get more delegates when Bernie won?
     
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    Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and her secret DNC rulebook.
     
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    If you have to ask, you're a sexist.:p
     
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    How did that happen? Is this a reason to revert to straight popular vote (which philosophically I support)?
     
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    Bernie was awarded 13 delegates to Hillary's 9; however, she got all 6 of the Super delegates in New Hampshire. So, she came out on top in New Hampshire...basically, she got the last laugh at the end of the night.
     
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    The DNC only needs remedial arithmetic lessons.
     
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    So basically the Democrat party gave a big **** YOU to the people of New Hampshire.
     
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    I like and support Hillary, but for a modern country there is something fundamentally wrong, or antiquated, or corrupt about the delegate system. I support popular vote as the only intellectually honest method of electing leaders as I support a secure online voting system based on 1 person, 1 vote.
     
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    Well...I think the Democrat party give a big **** YOU to the people who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2008!

    She BEAT Obama in the popular vote, but because of superdelegates, he won the nomination.
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    I see your point! I felt the same way in 2008. If we're basing it off popular vote, then...

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    She would have been running against McCain.
     
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    Clarification: I realize our structure of government is organized as to not shut out States with lesser populations. You can see that in two Federal Senators per state regardless of the population. This should be a consideration in a philosophical popular vote discussion, but within a single State I can't see how popular vote would not rule the outcome. I guess it depends on how far the notion of fareness is taken. Not a retraction of what I quoted.
     
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    Common core delegates
     
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    Your point is acknowledged. It just seems that the delegate system can be used to subvert the outcome of popular vote. My understanding is there was a time in our distant past when the delegate system gave voice to widely dispersed population in rural, frontier areas, where possibly voting was not convienent, but those days are long since past.
     
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    I don't have a problem with the parties using delegates. However, super-delegates are nothing more than a mechanism for both parties to circumvent the will of the people who vote. Both parties should do away with them.
     
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    Agreed.

    I, too, am in favor of a popular vote.

    I'd like my vote to count the same as everyone else's.
     
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    It would be interesting to see how super delegates are chosen and controlled.
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    Question: Why do you think Hillary's soul has been crushed? Sounds good if you dislike her? :p
     
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    They won't for that very reason
     
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    Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.

    Bernie is going to have a massive surge across the country after this blowout. The media is finally giving him the coverage he deserves and he is proven that he can beat the Clinton machine by a substantial margin.
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    Good thing she didn't. President McCain would have been terrible.
     
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    We shall see. Bernie won't time to convince the America public to vote for him next month...there won't be 1 state this week, another state the next week...next month is going to be interesting.

    Feb 20 - Nevada
    Feb 27 - South Carolina
    Mar 1 - Super Tuesday

    I'll correct this when I look it up.

    Edit: Correction for the amount of states on Super Tuesday.

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    Hillary will take a majority of those states on March 1st.
     
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    There was a story floating around the conservative media months ago saying that the elections really didn't matter on the Democrat side because Hillary already had the super delegates sewn up.
     
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    See above.
     
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    Sorry, but that's effectively a poll tax.
     

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