12 Killed in Shootings at Fort Hood, Pentagon says

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  1. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Very few details so far.


    CNN link


    EDIT: MSNBC link

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/


     
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  5. rdowns thread starter macrumors Penryn

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    News conference from base. 12 dead, 31 wounded. Gunman dead and 2 others, described as suspects, apprehended.
     
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    Gunman identified as Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan.

    Comments from Obama:
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    Good Grief. I know I'm gonna sound all freaky but does the U.S. Military have sleeper cells in the armed forces?

    A MAJOR ? That's an O-4.. Common for an XO. Executive Officer.

    This guy had to have been in at least 10 years and graduated from the Army War College.
     
  9. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Sounds like a group that really really didn't want to redeploy.
     
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    Why is that your first assumption?

    That depends. From what I understand, he was a "mental health specialist/professional." There are specialties where your civilian specialty and background merit an automatic grade. For example, if this guy were a psychiatrist, he would have started at O-3. Furthermore, he would never have been in the pipeline for Army War College.
     
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    That's terrible. How ironic it is that the person who flipped out and did the shootings was a psychiatrist.
     
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    Sad news. These are men/women who signed up to serve their country. I don't believe in the wars but these people did not deserve to die. Some of the injured had just graduated and instead of facing a foreign threat they were gunned down by one of their own. He should have just taken his own life.
     
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    From what I've heard from psychiatrists, being around crazy people all day can start to get to you... it sounds like the guy snapped when he found out he was being deployed.
     
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    No, he's in Iraq, and oddly safe, from this at least. :confused:
     
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    I just saw this while I was at the gym. Absolutely horrible.

    I know exactly where it happened. So far, I don't know anybody involved.

    I'm in complete shock.
     
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    Update.

    11 dead, 31 wounded. One person was reported to be dead, but is alive. Wounded, went through surgery, and now is in stable condition.

    Gunman was reported to be dead. He's alive. The one thought to be dead but was just wounded was the first person to shoot him.

    BL.
     
  17. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    Source?
     
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    I agree. It makes you wonder about the psychiatrist's lot, being around these people with mental health problems might have lead to his reluctance about being redeployed if he knew what it does to you.

    Either way it's terribly sad that someone who was trained in and spent his life dealing with other's mental health issues could not recognise that he himself was about to flip out and do what he did :(
     
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    Fort Hood: Another victim of shooting rampage dies

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    Yeah, you do. The authorities are saying no, at this point. So far, it sounds like there's nothing to that. Interview with a relative I heard seemed normal, not propaganda. Alleged shooter was being treated for alcohol problem.
     
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    Just saw on google news that I have the same type of gun he used (FN FiveSeveN). Not a big caliber, but it makes up for it in low recoil, fast followup and ultra flat shooting capabilities. Sad to see just how effective the FiveSeveN can be in the right hands.
     
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    You mean the wrong hands?
     
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    I meant right hands, as in well trained (e.g. how to use firearms). Not right hands as in correct.
     
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    When I was doing my psychology internship last year, a previous psychiatry resident killed herself. One way or another -- psychiatric diseases are real diseases and they can affect anyone -- there's never been any evidence that people who work in psychiatry, psychology, or social work are particularly immune to them.

    I listened to a lot of the NPR coverage on the way home... sounds like this was a fed up person who wasn't safe to remain in active duty. Hopefully from the ashes of this we can find better ways to identify people like this, and get them out of the pathway where they can harm others in time to prevent these things. A lot of heroes did a lot of good work in managing that situation, and there could've been a lot more dead. Hopefully we can learn from their heroic efforts also and make our bases safer.
     
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    mkrishnan, you're absolutely right, there is NO evidence that people who work in psychiatry, psychology, or social work are particularly immune to them. In fact, several studies suggest that physicians in general may be at higher risk of depression and suicide than the general population. I don't think there have been any studies that have identified psychiatrists as being at particularly increased risk compared to other physicians.
     

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