128GB iPhone... there better be USB 3.0

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by cbflip2000, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. cbflip2000 macrumors regular

    Jun 30, 2008
    If 128GB iPhones are coming out, what do you think are the chances that iPhones and iPads will get USB 3.0 support? I think it's time for Apple to consider using USB 3.0 or even coming out with a Thunderbolt iPhone cable. We shouldn't be suffering with long sync times any longer. The new Galaxy Notes supports USB 3.0. Apple it's your turn to support this since all new Macs come with USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt anyways.
  2. madsci954, Sep 5, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2013

    madsci954 macrumors 68030

    Oct 14, 2011
    From what I understand, the rate at which iOS reads and writes to the flash storage, USB 3 won't make a difference. And since thunderbolt is still mostly on Macs, as I would guess there are more people with Windows and iPhones then Macs and iPhones, they won't make a TB lightning cable ever. 128 GB iPhones might be possible though.
  3. Skika macrumors 68030

    Mar 11, 2009
    The flash in iPhones barely saturates USB2, what good would USB3 be?
  4. Roessnakhan macrumors 68040


    Sep 16, 2007
    The initial setup for a phone always takes a bit, but after that syncs should be minor and not that time consuming. I would like USB 3.0, but I don't think the iPhone is capable of it, especially if they're on their kick to keep making them thinner.
  5. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6


    Aug 17, 2007
    I don't think there will be a 128GB iPhone, so USB 2.0 will remain standard.
  6. Lucille Carter macrumors 65816

    Jul 3, 2013
    I have a iPhone 5 with 64GB. It is about 75% full. I backup with the cloud and via the computer with iTunes. It takes less than a minute to back up my phone on USB with iTunes. Not much need for more speed but I am sure USB 3 will get here one day but there is a lot they need to do to the hardware/memory in the iPhone before USB 3 would be worth it.


  7. cbflip2000 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 30, 2008
    I'd like to transfer video files a lot faster from iPhoto and Video apps. Those are the things that take forever to sync for me. Adding different movies, TV shows, and moving video files taken from camera roll to computer.
  8. jetjaguar macrumors 68030


    Apr 6, 2009
    i really hope they do add 128gb but i doubt they will:(
  9. Joe HS, Sep 5, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2013

    Joe HS macrumors 6502

    Jun 22, 2011
    United Kingdom
    I hope Lightning won't support Thunderbolt. The last thing you want is to be part way through a sync and realise that you can't then connect your other TB devices because your iPhone isn't capable of daisy-chaining. (Slightly older Macs only have one port, remember). USB 3 definitely seems like the better option.. Although those Macs don't have USB 3. Hmm.

    Edit: That's MacBook Pros which now have two – Airs still have one.
  10. boomhower macrumors 68000


    Oct 21, 2011
    It wouldn't make a difference but it wouldn't surprise me in the least as that is the current standard and they could put a checkmark in that box with likely minimal cost. Plus AC is becoming more common rendering the wired speed and less relevant. Regardless, as mentioned, the speed of the flash in the phone makes it all pointless as it's just not that fast.
  11. scaredpoet macrumors 604


    Apr 6, 2007
    So too, does the current MacBook Air.
  12. Intell macrumors P6


    Jan 24, 2010
    You'd still be limited to the speed of the iPhone's NAND flash, it currently reads around 20 megabytes per second. There's still room for improvement before it hits USB 2's ~35MB/sec data rate.
  13. onepoint macrumors 6502a


    Aug 3, 2010
    At minimum, USB 3.0 on the laptop-side can charge at 900 milliamps as opposed to 500 milliamps over USB 2.0
  14. cbflip2000 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 30, 2008
    Ah I see... any technological advancements on that front or rumors of faster NAND flash? Has the NAND flash been the same since the first iPhone in 2007?

    Came across this on wikipedia:

    "As of 2013 V-NAND flash reads and writes twice as fast as conventional NAND. It lasts 10 times longer. V-NAND consumes 50 percent less power. As of 2013 they offer comparable physical bit density, using 10-nm lithography, but potentially offer as much as two orders of magnitude of increased density"

    I hope Apple can utilize this for future products.
  15. eastamherstbias macrumors 6502

    Mar 18, 2012
    People still plug their iphones into a computers. I have not plugged my Ipad or Iphones into a computer in a year. I just download directly on the device. Usb is starting to become obsolete.
  16. cbflip2000 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 30, 2008
    I definitely need USB when switching up movies or TV shows that I have encoded my self. Example is 1 movie file.

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  17. Intell macrumors P6


    Jan 24, 2010
    NAND speeds have gotten better since the first iPhone. Thy read around 10MB/second. The largest jump was with the iPhone 4S up to the current 20MB/second.
  18. jreuschl macrumors 6502

    Dec 31, 2008
    The Galaxy Note III has USB 3.0, so that is starting to appear in phones.

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