19inch iMacs?

Mr. Anderson

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It sounds great, but will the price Apple asks for the machine be worth it? I can't wait to see one in the Apple Store....

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ddtlm

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I'd like to see an "iMac Pro" sporting a top-o-line G4 with L3, plus a larger screen. Charge enough so no $ is lost from tower sales. I'd even think about getting one, not sure if I would though.
 

dwishbone

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well, all i can say is they were right about the 17" iMac.
i hope this is right too. can justify my waiting until now to get one.
bring on the 19 incher.
 

jelloshotsrule

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there are two reasons i'm skeptical:

1. there is no 19" lcd from apple (yet!) so i think that will happen before the 19" imac... though the lcd could come soon.... paris or whatever

2. this would be a true prosumer machine... which would be blurring the line b/w imac and powermac..

that said, i'd still like to see it and don't doubt it will happen...
 

amnesiac1984

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yeah but the 17" screen on the imac is nothing like the 17" studio..........
SO why has a 19" iMac screen got anything to do with when they release the 19 "studio, unless the studio will be widescreen Which would be cool. even so your logic doesn't follow as they released the 17" iMac and there is no screen to match it in the studio range. Does anybody know if even the 15" imac uses the same actual LCD as the 15" studio, i mean thats been around a lot longer!

All I'm saying is that there not being a 19" studio has nothing to do with whether or not there would be a 19" iMac coming or not.

:)
 

technocoy

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19 incher

i'm betting this deal is for a 19 in. studio display.

to put it on an imac is insane...
1: the current case design won't allow for it
2: a 19 in lcd display would nearly double the imac price
3: they are in need of a middle ground display (between the 17" and the 22")

just trying to be a little more down to earth here...

go look at the 17 inch imac in person and you'll see that a 19in just wouldn't fit with the current case, and i'm betting apple's not gonna redesign this soon

later:D
 

Zaren

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Jeez... hanging a 19 inch LCD on the end of that arm would be nuts... you'd have to bolt the base to the table to stop it from falling over :)

I'd much sooner bet on it being an external monitor than a new iMac... the 17" is pricey enough.
 

TechLarry

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The native resolution of 17" and 19" LCD's are typically the same (1280X1024).

Other than for people with bad eyes who need larger type, I see no need for the extra cost.

TL
 

dhdave

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I'm not sure what you people are basing your physics on, but I've looked at the iMac many times in both 15 and 17 inch variants and I've gotta tell you that a 19" iMac would be no problem whatsoever for the current base and arm. That monitor arm is far stronger than you realize and the extra 2 inches of weight is absolutely insignifigant. I'm not saying they are going to do this or even that I think they should, but it's not at all impossible. :p

dh
 

ffakr

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Originally posted by dhdave
I'm not sure what you people are basing your physics on, but I've looked at the iMac many times in both 15 and 17 inch variants and I've gotta tell you that a 19" iMac would be no problem whatsoever for the current base and arm. That monitor arm is far stronger than you realize and the extra 2 inches of weight is absolutely insignifigant. I'm not saying they are going to do this or even that I think they should, but it's not at all impossible. :p

dh
Insignificant?
I have a 15" LCD imac.. total weight is somewhere around 27-28 lbs.
I just ordered a 18" lcd for work... Aside from the $999 price tag, it weighed over 25 lbs with the tiny speakers and the power brick.

Let's make some estimates...
iMac base: 15-20lbs
18" lcd (surrounding plastic, no speakers, no power brick): ~15lbs.

Lexan is heavy after all. You think that putting 15lbs on an arm, and pulling it out in front of a 15-20lb base isn't going to make it tilt over? You'd need to leave the cd drawer out as a kick stand ;-)

Where did you learn physics?
 

rainman::|:|

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Well this discussion doesn't sound at all familiar... bickering about whether the arm would support it or not, etc etc. BTW, dhdave, he meant that the whole thing would tip over, not that the arm would break...

so in proper iMac upgrade fashion, i'm going to bitch. Why in Gods name does anyone need a consumer machine with a 19" LCD? it'd be (guessing) as expensive as a G4 with a 15"... and then you'd have expansion capabilities. The pro and consumer lines do not need to be blured anymore. That's not to mention how god--awful it would look... seriously, i love apple, but i sure as hell wouldn't pay $2000+ for a computer that doesn't even have a PCI slot. christ...

that said, i would like to see the 15" Studio display phased out, and a 19" put in, as people were suggesting a while ago... i think most other companies have abandoned the 15" for pro users... tho granted they're not LCD based...

it just seems weird to me that so many of you were the ones rooting for Apple to pull a $599 internet appliance out of their asses, to be cheap and appeal to the masses, but the computer that currently *does* that you want upgraded with unnecessary features...

:)
pnw
 

technocoy

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the point is mister physics....

apple is a design conscious company, from a design point of view the 19 in won't work... the 17 barely does... simply because visually it would be out of scale and look like it was just "hung there"

I was not implying that it was physically impossible...:)

later
 

scem0

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Re: madness

Originally posted by Zaren
Jeez... hanging a 19 inch LCD on the end of that arm would be nuts... you'd have to bolt the base to the table to stop it from falling over :)

I'd much sooner bet on it being an external monitor than a new iMac... the 17" is pricey enough.
I have to agree. A 19 inch mon on the current iMac would look.... well.... ludicrous/silly/bad, not to mention that it would be unbalanced etc.
 

Johnny7896

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I think it would be cool if the screen could be turned sideways. Like the old radious view monitors. This would give you a portrait view.
 

xelterran

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maby if they release the g5 sometime soon they could make a pro 19inch g5 imac, that would be rather cool!
 

sparkleytone

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Originally posted by ffakr


Lexan is heavy after all. You think that putting 15lbs on an arm, and pulling it out in front of a 15-20lb base isn't going to make it tilt over? You'd need to leave the cd drawer out as a kick stand ;-)

Where did you learn physics?
Where did you learn design?? Apple is well known for doing the so called impossible with their industrial design. It's called not limiting yourself. Erase all boundaries. There are no lines. Think outside of the box.

If physicists and mathematicians ran the world, there would be no such thing as an airplane.

I believe it, if anyone can design it, Apple is a company that can.
 

fishdoc

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Well, just taking a few seconds to look at Apple's site reveals this:

Weight of 15" iMac: 21.2 pounds
Weight of 17" iMac: 22.8 pounds

So, a difference of only 1.6 pounds. And it may not even be that the entirety is made up from the screen - I have no idea if the base or components differ at all, or if the 17" includes and added ballast to keep it stable. Of course, the difference in wt between a 19" and a 17" will be greater than between a 17" and a 15", but still - my guess is that physics would not stop a 19" from being plausible.

Fish
 

gandalf55

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pretty cool... 19" iMac. With Superdrive & all...

This is great for mid-level consumers and schools... but it seems like thats the push. I don't see a ton of effort or innovations for the pro line. They want the edu market back and i don't blame them. how about spreading the love across the user base too?
 

rainman::|:|

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Originally posted by Johnny7896
I think it would be cool if the screen could be turned sideways. Like the old radious view monitors. This would give you a portrait view.
Exactly. My first thought on seeing the iMac is that they finally incorporated that... 'course it would be a little odd with the 17", but still... it'd not be that much more expensive, it could be a BTO option. 'course it'd be nice if they simply got around to selling BTO imacs...
 

dhdave

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The people who are saying a.) it's impossible, b.) it would fall over and c.) it's not necessary are utterly rediculous.

a.) It's entirely possible

b.) It WON'T fall over. It will barely weigh 2 lbs more. MAYBE 3. Not enough to make a dent. PERIOD.

c.) ANYTHING people will pay for is necessary. Sorry to shake you from your conservative roots, but there is and ALWAYS will be a market for increased screen size. I can't believe anyone in their right mind would call a 19" iMac "ludicrous".


Finally, I am the one who started the original thread on the $399 crt iMac. What does one have to do with the other? Apples and oranges. High end and low end. Loss leader to increase market share. Why is this so hard to understand? Sheesh. :confused:

dh
 

rainman::|:|

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Originally posted by gandalf55
pretty cool... 19" iMac. With Superdrive & all...
This is great for mid-level consumers and schools...
If a 19" LCD is mid-level for consumers now, what's high-level?

And how could schools justify the money for a bit of screen real-estate? the largest thing they usually do is a newspaper, and i've seen those things done on an SE ;)

pnw
 

rainman::|:|

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Originally posted by dhdave
Finally, I am the one who started the original thread on the $399 crt iMac. What does one have to do with the other? Apples and oranges. High end and low end. Loss leader to increase market share. Why is this so hard to understand? Sheesh. :confused:
the iMac is low-end! That's been it's whole existance! It's how people can afford a Mac without having to buy a G4 tower. I just cannot imagine the lowest-end desktop being $1500-1700 and a contemporary desktop being $1800-2100... These are *consumer* machines!

:)
pnw