2010 Midterm Election - Republican Strategy

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by mcrain, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. mcrain macrumors 68000


    Feb 8, 2002
    Some Republicans have been talking about how the Democrats are doomed in the 2010 midterm elections. I am aware of polls that show congress' approval ratings as a whole being terrible. I'm also aware of polls that show incumbent approval ratings being abismal regardless of party.

    I'm curious about what strategy the Republicans will use in 2010.

    Repeal the bill? That seems like a difficult political position to take. If you are for repealing the bill, you are for allowing pre-existing conditions to stop coverage and the other arguably "good" aspects of health care reform. You are also against saving 1.3 trillion dollars. Not to mention, repeal is not going to be easy.

    Taxes? I think Obama is going to let the Bush tax cuts lapse. Will the GOP will run on cutting taxes in this economic climate?

    Jobs? It would be a good topic to run on, but what will be their platform? If they continue to vote against Obama's job bills, and if the economy continues to heal, where does that leave them.

    Abortion? Always a stand by, just like gay rights and flag burning. Always gets the base out.

    Immigration? If Obama begins immigration reform, I see this as a likely focus. If the GOP came up with a good immigration platform, and tamed some of their more radical policies, I could see them gaining a lot of support.

    Terrorism? I'm sure the miranda warnings, criminal trials, torture, underwear bomber stuff will come up. (I posted a poll some time ago about whether the right would stand behind the president if there was a terrorist attack. I hope they would, but the cynic in me says the politics would get ugly.)

    War? Iraq - Afganistan. Maybe.

    (edit) Anti-Regulations? If the Dems push forward on banking regulations that are opposed by the GOP, they could somehow tie in the publics general fear of regulations, and somehow tie in the whole banking collapse. Maybe.

    I don't want to bash the GOP or the Dems, I'm really curious about what the right is going to run on come November. It can't just be opposition to Obama and his policies.

    I know what they are against, but I'm not sure what they are going to be for.
  2. leekohler macrumors G5


    Dec 22, 2004
    Chicago, Illinois
    That's what their strategy will be.
  3. OutThere macrumors 603


    Dec 19, 2002
    Party of 'no'.

    Party of people terrified that the world is changing and they're being left behind.

    Trouble is they have no real unified platform, they're an amalgam of beliefs unified by hating the democrats. Big money republicans, right wing libertarians, Evangelical bible thumpers, antiterror nuts. They can't present a platform that they're all for, except for being against the dems.
  4. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    Well with congress approval rating so low they can run on change and to listen to the people. Now the truth is another story.

    The health insurance act was a mess and it took them over a year to pass it with a super majority and things got tied up in both houses when the dems had overwhelming majority and stuff still not getting done.

    Remember the people as a whole feel like the government is not listening to them so they want out the incombet

    Me personally I want them all voted out no matter what party they represent. Hell I rather see massive third party take control.
  5. TechieJustin macrumors 6502


    Nov 22, 2009
    Pennsylvania, USA
    We need another war.
    Iran will say something about Israel and the airstrikes will begin.
  6. jb1280 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 13, 2009
    I'm going to say the Republican Party is in an even greater state of disarray today than in November 2008.

    After the election there was the potential of Obama being able to shift the United States and they initiated a policy of nihilist opposition.

    That policy failed. Now what?

    If the economy picks up a bit between now and November, I don't see the Republicans taking back either House.

    For as unpopular as the Democratic Party might be, the Republicans are more disdained.

    I am also curious what is going to happen to polling on Congress. I think a lot of dissatisfaction with Congress is that they are perceived to do absolutely nothing year after year. Well, this Congress has done something. Once the dust settles, they might see a bit of an uptick.
  7. IntheNet macrumors regular


    Oct 6, 2009
    I had lunch with a Republican friend of mine and we agreed that best GOP strategy we could follow - for 2010 Republican campaign - is to heavily promote Democrats in our district... Matter of fact, we are petitioning to have Obama visit and campaign for our local Democrat representative! That seems to guarantee a Republican victory! May even put up a few Pelosi signs just to be sure...
  8. djellison macrumors 68020

    Feb 2, 2007
    Pasadena CA
    That's wonderful.

    Now what will the Republicans be campaigning FOR. What is their manifesto. What are their policies. What is their agenda. If someone votes for them - what are they voting for, exactly. How are they going to help those unable to get medical insurance. How are they going to stop the accelerating cost of healthcare. How are they going to reduce the deficit.
  9. mcrain thread starter macrumors 68000


    Feb 8, 2002
    I'm assuming you are joking. I really am curious about what the right will do. Senator McCain said they were going to campaign on repeal, but I don't see how that can work. To repeal the law, they have to obtain a supermajority in the Senate (as per GOP standards and practices, 60 votes needed for anything), and probably either a majority of the House, or pretty close. Then, they have to get Obama to sign it, which won't happen. To override the Veto they would have to have an even larger majority.

    Plus, repeal stands for cutting health coverage, bringing back preexisting conditions and insurance wrongdoing, eliminating health care savings, and still needing health care reform (which the GOP is on record as admitting we need.)

    It is clearly a campaign issue, but again, it's basically saying we are against what the Democrats want. What other issues will they run on?

    ITN, you probably have a better insight in this than I do, so I'm really curious. What do you think?

    (edit) To those on the left, what would you campaign on if you were a GOP candidate?

    I think fiscal responsibility would a good issue, but that would require some more distancing from the GOP of the last 20 years.

    Obviously, the GOP gets good marks for terrorism/military/national security, so that would be an issue I would hammer.

    I think I would push my candidates to work on regulations of the banks and jobs bills and then campaign on job growth, lower taxes for small businesses, and fixing the problems with the banking industry. That would allow you to try to paint the banking problems as issues that arose under the leadership of the left.

    The left hasn't done much on education, so I think I would campaign on education, perhaps expanding no child left behind, or somehow take that issue.

    Immigration would also be a big one, but that issue may be defined by the left if Obama takes up that issue.
  10. IntheNet macrumors regular


    Oct 6, 2009
    REPEAL THE BILL (among others comes to mind)!

    LESS SOCIALISM, MORE DEMOCRACY (less filling, tastes great)!

    FISCAL CONSERVATISM, LISTEN TO VOTERS, REPEAT (Campaign chant:return to sanity)!

    More than a year into the Obama fiasco, Beta Version 1, we have 10% unemployment, worse deficit in history, regulations out of control, burdensome federal bureaucracy, plunging presidential ratings, worst Democrat-led Congress ratings in history, foreign nations laughing at us, terrorists given Miranda rights, a clueless Vice President and a President whose political theory would make Karl Marx blush. I think the Republican agenda is based on putting the brakes on all this disaster to reflect the will of the majority! That's our agenda!

    HOLD A MIRROR UP TO ANY OBAMA POLICY (The reverse of it is democracy - that's what American's want)!

    While a major detailed GOP policy reflecting conservative ideals would be normally appropriate for Republicans to run on in fall campaign - with detailed policy planks - the sheer anger at the Democrats by voters is so palpable that anything against Obama would suit the GOP well for votes for Republicans... I wasn't kidding about reminding voters about pelosi... that's a winning strategy for sure... 2010 will be an anger vote against Democrats... I see both House AND SENATE turning over to Republicans in 2010 campaign... and something similar to Newt's Contract with America agenda following that...

    No Child Left Behind was a true bi-partisan effort by Pres. Bush with Sen. Kennedy... while unpopular with Teacher Unions and the NEA the policy worked to improve schools... I see Obama is modifying it now... hardly surprising because of his union chums. Ask parents about NCLB... it works fine as is... no change...
  11. jb1280 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 13, 2009
    This is coming from right down the center, but I would push for the following:

    1. Tort Reform and putting some Republican aspects into the existing health care legislation. Accept the legislation and improve it in a manner that makes sense to you and can be sold to the American people.

    2. Immigration Reform. Take a page out of George W. Bush and split the electorate on that issue.

    3. Play up the divided government of the 1990s and the economic growth and budget situation that took place at the end of the decade. Embrace Clintonianism.

    They will, of course, never do this due to the current makeup of the Republican Party.
  12. eawmp1 macrumors 601


    Feb 19, 2008
    Sigh...another year where people vote AGAINST something/someone instead of FOR something/someone. :(
  13. Eraserhead macrumors G4


    Nov 3, 2005
    I can't believe even the Americans would vote for the Republicans this soon - after the debacle of the Conservatives in the 1990 until 1997 its taken until 2010 for them to have a swing at getting back in.

    And they were nowhere near as bad as Bush.
  14. chrmjenkins macrumors 603


    Oct 29, 2007
  15. mcrain thread starter macrumors 68000


    Feb 8, 2002
    You realize that Obama and the Dems ran on health care reform, and they won. The GOP is the party that refused to listen to the voters, and that's why they lost their majorities.

    Unemployment that was rising exponentially at end of Bush administration, but is turning around.

    Deficit that is again turning around, along with the economy and stock market.

    Regulations and bureaucracy - the GOP is against regulating the banks that got us into this crisis!

    I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure foreign countries are laughing at the people against health care reform, gay rights, etc...

    Terrorists getting Miranda rights? Isn't that what Bush/Cheney did? Oh, yeah, they did. That's what a civilized nation does.

    Clueless VP? He's a little odd, and still a clueless VP is better than a clueless President like we had before, not to mention His Royal Highness, Dick Cheney.
  16. macfan881 macrumors 68020

    Feb 22, 2006
    Lemme guess so you can shout You Lie and Baby Killer right :p
  17. macfan881 macrumors 68020

    Feb 22, 2006
    Personally though I think unless the Economy/unemployment gets worse I don't see that happening The Dems are gonna hold there spots the HealthCare Bill was a Huge Swing for the Dems and had they failed to pass it it was the only way i could see the dem's losing more seats.
  18. bobber205 macrumors 68020


    Nov 15, 2005

    Nation, there's another socialist trying to destroy America. Barack Obama.
  19. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030


    May 18, 2004
    lol.....careful now! just image confused but obedient republicans writing in Pelosi's name :p
  20. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816


    Dec 16, 2004
    Birmingham, AL
    Actually I'm curious to see what effect this bill will have on immigration, legal and otherwise. If the public has to pay for the healthcare of immigrants, then this creates an incentive to do something about limiting the amount of [illegal] immigrants coming into the country.

    If employers are now required to provide healthcare to all employees, then maybe those unskilled illegals aren’t such a good deal anymore. So far, there has been little to no political will to actually crack down on employers who hire illegals, but maybe there will now be a drive to crack down on those employers who hire illegals but don’t offer them health insurance.
  21. it5five macrumors 65816


    May 31, 2006
    New York
    There is nothing in the bill that gives or allows undocumented immigrants to purchase health insurance on the new insurance exchanges that are being created. This crackpot theory was totally debunked back during the "you lie" debacle.

    Anything in the bill aside, I should mention that you, and everyone, is already paying for the healthcare of undocumented immigrants. The uninsured already go to the emergency room, where they cannot be denied care, for their medical needs. Since they are unable to pay, the cost is passed on to everyone else. Providing everyone with coverage so they can go to the doctor before their ailments get too bad (placing emphasis on preventative care) would reduce cost and improve the health of our country.

    I'm sure none of this means anything to people who view undocumented immigrants as nothing more than "illegals", rather than acknowledging their humanity. Nobody should be denied the opportunity to live a healthy life, no matter where they are from or their immigration status.

    Such is the distillation of the conservatives's mindset: I have, **** everyone else.
  22. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

    Zombie Acorn

    Feb 2, 2009
    Toronto, Ontario
    Repeal the mandate along with the fines, keep the insurance regulations, no amnesty for illegals, allow insurance companies to compete over state lines, disallow any funding for corrupt groups such as ACORN, just to name a few.
  23. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

    Thomas Veil

    Feb 14, 2004
    OBJECTIVE reality
    Ladies and gentlemen...the annotated IntheNet:

    (1) Caused by the policies of Bush and the GOP.
    (2) Largely ditto.
    (3) Translation: returning to effective pre-Reagan levels.
    (4) Yada cliché yada talking-point yada.
    (5) They'll never hit Bush's level.
    (6) ...even lower than MSNBC!
    (7) Well not all of us, just the GOP.
    (8) ...and...?
    (9) Wait a minute! Dan Quayle is back?? Or is it Spiro Agnew? Dick Cheney?
    (10) Now Karl Marx is laughing.
    (11) Your party need the number of the suicide prevention hotline?

    Anyway, I have some suggested ideas for planks the Republican Party can run on:

    • You know that health care you couldn't get, that illness you couldn't get treated, or those policy prices that were just killing you? We were all for that!
    • Like NBC, our language is more colorful.
    • We'll defend you against terrorists, but banks and insurance companies? Ho ho ho no!!
    • No one could have foreseen that there weren't really death panels....
    • We know we've been saying it for two years and it hasn't happened, but the Soviet tanks are gonna be rolling down the streets of your town any day now. Really and for true!!
  24. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    Based on what the GOP is saying, they know exactly what the "American think", so I assume they won't need a platform....everything they support is exactly what all Americans want...right?
  25. yg17 macrumors G5


    Aug 1, 2004
    St. Louis, MO
    Repeal the bill? LOL

    If, and that's a big if, the GOP gets a majority in Congress and the Senate, it won't be enough to override Obama's veto of any repeal.

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