2012 Presidential Debates: First Debate

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  1. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    Tonight in Denver, at 9:00-10:30pm Eastern Time, Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate and the President of the United States, Barack Obama, square off on domestic policy.



    Some of this morning's headlines:

    • Romney Under Pressure to Score Debate Win Against Obama
    • First debate sets up moment of high-risk theater
    • Pressure on for Romney in Debate
    • Can Obama and Romney Shake the Nasty and Act Nice for Debate?
    • Debate all about trust for Romney

    It’ll be across all the networks and on C-Span, as well streaming on the BBC for those in the UK. Here are the details of US coverage.

    Have at it.
     
  2. BladesOfSteel macrumors regular

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    Meh.

    I used to watch . . .

    I'm tired of seeing the debaters being asked one question, and then spew 2 minutes worth of crap that doesn't really answer the question.
     
  3. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    Have faith.

    Jim Lehrer has the balls to stand-up to them.

    I hope. ;)
     
  4. edk99 macrumors 6502a

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    The reality is these debates are meaningless to 95%+ of the people who are voting because they already made up their minds. I for one know who i'm voting for and these debates won't change that.

    But it really makes you wonder with 30+ days to go why there are still undecided people that are going to watch these debates and be swayed one way or another. There is such a stark difference between these two it is hard to understand what is keeping you undecided.

    If I watch I'll probably tune into MSNBC to watch the Obama love fest and listen to them ooze with excitement in how Obama destroyed Romney in the debate. It is very comical to watch.
     
  5. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Fixed it for you.
     
  6. Blue Velvet thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    One of my favourites:



     
  7. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    That was classic. She was such a political BSer, even though she fancied herself a straight shooter.

    Also, Biden did hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what got us into trouble.
     
  8. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    There are so few undecided voters (hell, I don't think there are any) that this is simply political theater. Unless Obama admits to being a Kenyan-Marxist-Socialist, Romney is toast.
     
  9. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Some good advice for Romney tonight....
     

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    You might want to keep your eyes/ears open to Romney's suggestion that there would be an economic boom merely because he was elected. He might say it was because of uncertainty now or fear of what regulations Obama might impose, but I all but guarantee you Romney will say something about how his election will unleash the job creators.

    What he is really saying is that there are billionaires and fortune 500 corporations that are sitting on massive hoardes of money that they could use to grow their businesses, but they are not only because they are either scared, greedy or partisan. None of which are good.
     
  11. KingYaba macrumors 68040

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    I wish Jill Stein and Gary Johnson were included in tonight's debate.
     
  12. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Interesting you should mention this. An article on Morning Edition touches on this very subject.

    Story

    So it will be interesting to see how much of this happens tonight, especially with Romney, as he was prepped by the Republican consultant who specializes in this.

    BL.
     
  13. BladesOfSteel macrumors regular

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    Interesting read.

    I'm sure you'll see it out of Romney and Obama . . . and then out of Ryan and Biden when they debate. They all do it, unfortunately. Just give me the answer to the question. Thank you very much.
     
  14. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Who schedules a debate during the best night of baseball season?:confused:
     
  15. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    This. It takes any politician -- Obama included -- only about five to ten seconds to adjust from what the moderator asked, to delivering one of their safe, standard, pat answers from the campaign trail.

    Have you ever watched one of the Sunday morning news shows? Even when the host is pushy and won't take a bull---- answer, the exchange tends to run like this:

    Host: Can you explain how you will _____?
    Candidate: (gives answer that almost immediately spins away from the topic into something he's more comfortable talking about)

    Host: Yes, but that doesn't answer the question. How will you _____?
    Candidate: (realizes he has to stay closer to the topic, but still gives a vague answer)

    Host: But you're talking in generalities. How will you specifically ______?
    Candidate: (reiterates the vague answer, often insisting that it's the answer the host wanted)

    At which point the host, realizing they can't spend the entire show on one question, moves on.

    Seems the only thing the Dems and the GOP can agree on nowadays is freezing third parties out.
     
  16. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    +1. I think Johnson should have a greater chance of winning than Romney.
     
  17. Mord macrumors G4

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    That "technique" is probably the most visible aspect of politics that induces intense disillusionment within me.

    Does anyone else not always find it completely transparent when they do this? I only think they get away with it because pretty much everyone does it.
     
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    Embeded youtube stream was here. No longer active so I removed it. One less thing for your browser to load.

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    You may be able to watch it right here! Not sure if it will be blocked in certain countries.
     
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    I'll definitely watch, still not sure who I will vote for , for some odd reason I just printed out my registration form, I dont want to vote for some guy who authorizes drone attacks every now and then... I also dont want to vote for a prick who said the 47% don't matter/count ggggggr
     
  20. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah this bothers me SO much. I HATE pivots. I hate when someone ask about say, the 47% video for instance, and then they say, "let's look at what the other side said yesterday". No. Let's answer the question instead, how about that? That would be my response. If I was a journalist I probably wouldn't have too many repeat visitors to my show because I would be relentless and kind of rude if need be. I'd cut them off of their non-answers. Tell them I want a yes or no answer and to stop spiting out talking points. And I would do this for both sides because BladesOfSteel is right...both sides do this. Every single talking head seems well versed in the practice. It is so annoying. No doubt people would respect politicians a lot more if they would just give straight answers to questions. But they never do.
     
  21. edk99 macrumors 6502a

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    Obama looks very uncomfortable and frustrated.
     
  22. bungiefan89 macrumors 6502a

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    He's spending his anniversary humiliating himself on national TV alongside another grown man in a "debate" that plays out more like game show and has more cluster HUD than World of Warcraft.

    Of COURSE he's uncomfortable and frustrated! :mad:
     
  23. classicaliberal macrumors regular

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    I'm not a fan of either one of these Candidates and plan on "throwing my vote away" come November...

    But I have to say, Romney is crushing Obama right now. It's like he's lecturing to the President while Obama sits there and takes it.

    Romney seems more well versed and confident in the numbers as well...
     
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    I agree.
     

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