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After opening up a self-driving car program to the public in Phoenix, Arizona last month, Alphabet-owned Waymo has now officially partnered with ride-hailing app Lyft (via The New York Times). The two will work together in order "to bring autonomous vehicle technology into the mainstream" by launching various pilot projects and helping one another to develop products for the mass market.

Like its rival Uber, Lyft has been looking into autonomous vehicle technology recently, but the company lacked extensive research and development it needed to launch a self-driving car program on a wide scale. Waymo has that tech, but doesn't have the reach of Lyft, which currently operates in approximately 300 cities in the United States. In a statement, Lyft said that the partnership will help forward a "shared vision" that each company has of a self-driving future.

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As The New York Times pointed out, it also suggests that Waymo thinks its self-driving-car technology "has moved past the research stage and is ready to be applied commercially."
"Waymo holds today's best self-driving technology, and collaborating with them will accelerate our shared vision of improving lives with the world's best transportation," a Lyft spokeswoman said in a statement.

A Waymo spokesman said, "Lyft's vision and commitment to improving the way cities move will help Waymo's self-driving technology reach more people, in more places."
The specifics of what type of vehicles and products that drivers and riders might see from the collaboration were left unconfirmed, as was a launch window for any related self-driving program. Waymo said that its early, closed test of self-driving cars in Phoenix was a success, which led to the company's decision to expand the test to 600 self-driving Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid minivans.

Uber has tested and faced trouble in the autonomous vehicle space in the past, resulting in the removal of its self-driving cars from the roads in California as well as a lawsuit aimed at the company, filed by Waymo. U.S. federal prosecutors are investigating Waymo's claim that former Google employee Anthony Levandowski stole 14,000 confidential files, including data on Waymo's LiDAR system, which the company called "one of the most powerful parts" of its self-driving technology.

Levandowski left Google's self-driving project for Otto, a self-driving trucking company that Uber acquired for more than $680 million last year. U.S. district judge William Alsup partially granted Waymo's bid for an injunction as the case remains ongoing, and could ultimately roadblock any further progress Uber attempts to make in its autonomous vehicle efforts.

Apple is believed to be working on an autonomous driving system as well, with an end-of-2017 deadline for the team to "prove the feasibility" of the tech, so the company can then decide what direction it wants to take in the self-driving market.

Article Link: Lyft and Waymo Announce Partnership That Will Bring Autonomous Vehicle Program to Mainstream
 

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I wonder how long it will really take for autonomous vehicles to become mainstream? I guess I'm becoming an old curmudgeon (mid-30's, so not really that 'old'), but if I hailed a car and it showed up with no one in the driver's seat, I don't think I'd get in. Maybe my opinion will change in five or ten years (which is probably how long it will take for this tech to become more mainstream, anyway).

I just foresee this technology in taxi-type vehicles unearthing all kinds of new privacy issues. The cars will undoubtedly be loaded with mics and cameras both externally and inside the cabin. I wonder how many people will sit inside the cars in silence with their phone never leaving their pocket for fear that someone is seeing/listening to what's going on inside the car? People who don't trust Google (which seems to be a rather large percentage of people on MR) probably won't even go within 10 feet of this fleet of vehicles for obvious reasons.
 
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I wonder how long it will really take for autonomous vehicles to become mainstream? I guess I'm becoming an old curmudgeon (mid-30's, so not really that 'old'), but if I hailed a car and it showed up with no one in the driver's seat, I don't think I'd get in. Maybe my opinion will change in five or ten years (which is probably how long it will take for this tech to become more mainstream, anyway).

I just foresee this technology in taxi-type vehicles unearthing all kinds of new privacy issues. The cars will undoubtedly be loaded with mics and cameras both externally and inside the cabin. I wonder how many people will sit inside the cars in silence with their phone never leaving their pocket for fear that someone is seeing/listening to what's going on inside the car? People who don't trust Google (which seems to be a rather large percentage of people on MR) probably won't even go within 10 feet of this fleet of vehicles for obvious reasons.

Or........you just demand the cone of silence when you get it!!!!
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I wonder how long it will really take for autonomous vehicles to become mainstream? I guess I'm becoming an old curmudgeon (mid-30's, so not really that 'old'), but if I hailed a car and it showed up with no one in the driver's seat, I don't think I'd get in. Maybe my opinion will change in five or ten years (which is probably how long it will take for this tech to become more mainstream, anyway).

I just foresee this technology in taxi-type vehicles unearthing all kinds of new privacy issues. The cars will undoubtedly be loaded with mics and cameras both externally and inside the cabin. I wonder how many people will sit inside the cars in silence with their phone never leaving their pocket for fear that someone is seeing/listening to what's going on inside the car? People who don't trust Google (which seems to be a rather large percentage of people on MR) probably won't even go within 10 feet of this fleet of vehicles for obvious reasons.
Authentication with NFC and fingerprint seems like an easy solution.
 
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I wonder how many people will sit inside the cars in silence with their phone never leaving their pocket for fear that someone is seeing/listening to what's going on inside the car? People who don't trust Google (which seems to be a rather large percentage of people on MR) probably won't even go within 10 feet of this fleet of vehicles for obvious reasons.

You've watched people use smartphones to broadcast their entire lives and now think privacy will be an issue for people using automated transportation?

This sounds like my dad, about 10 years ago. He's near 70 now.
 

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You've watched people use smartphones to broadcast their entire lives and now think privacy will be an issue for people using automated transportation?

This sounds like my dad, about 10 years ago. He's near 70 now.

There's a difference between broadcasting your life on the internet and letting someone else take control of the car.

That's like having someone "help" you take your selfies, let's face it, they'll never capture you as good as you yourself can ;).
 
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There's a difference between broadcasting your life on the internet and letting someone else take control of the car.
People who live in urban areas use mass transportation all the time without being in control. The use of autonomous vehicles may take time to build trust but I doubt the fear of listening will be a factor.
 
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You've watched people use smartphones to broadcast their entire lives and now think privacy will be an issue for people using automated transportation?

Broadcasting one's life on the internet is something that can be turned on and off explicitly as the person pleases. I doubt that the person who gets into one of these cars is going to have any control over the mics and cameras in the car. That's the difference.
 

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Broadcasting one's life on the internet is something that can be turned on and off explicitly as the person pleases. I doubt that the person who gets into one of these cars is going to have any control over the mics and cameras in the car. That's the difference.

I highly doubt most normal people will care.
 
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