25% of Teens are Sexting, who would have thunk....

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  1. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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    25% of Teens are Sexting, who would have thunk....
    Many are sending nude photos.
    This has been happening for decades, and is only becoming more prevalent.

    Do you know what your teenager is doing?
    Chances are it may be much higher, even 50%, but not reported for fear of being discovered.

    Exploring of sexuality is perfectly natural for children.
    Sexting is actually another form of a perfectly natural development (in past was by talking).

    The failure of societies is not provising guidance to teenagers, tell them the consequences, and most important of all offer safe alternatives to explore their sexuality and offer help if they get in trouble.
    In America, teen sexting is considered a "child porn" and a major felony even though it is willingly created and sent by that "child" (some states are making exceptions).

    Plenty of cases of teens killing themselves or other horrible consequences of sexting because of social backlash.
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/gender-and-schooling/200912/sexting-and-suicide
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...sexting-nude-photo-boyfriend-life-misery.html
    https://www.teenvogue.com/story/sext-education


    Some solutions:

    STOP ignoring the fact that "children" are sexually active!
    From middle school through high school sex education must be open and honest, and as student get older get more explicit.
    Especially for girls, who often finish high school believing sex is a horrible, terrible, thing. (read Peggy Orenstein's books)
     
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    It's deeper than sexting. Young and old alike need to realize that the internet is forever and there's no privacy or guaranteed trust. Once you put something out there - it's there. And unlike days of yore, can be duplicated and mass distributed a lot easier.
     
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    Yep, parents should be teaching their kids this, and not giving them free access to smartphones until they understand the concept.
     
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    Probably a lot wouldn’t admit it.
     
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    I agree with the above, viz. that kids need to be taught about the permanence of what is put online, the possible negative consequences of sexting (not to mention the wrongness of sending an unsolicited photo, which applies to any age), and that parents need to be more open with their kids about discussing sexuality and behaviors like sexting (as uncomfortable as those conversations may be). Generally, the more an activity is taboo and not discussed, the more issues arise around it. A smartphone is a responsibility beyond the financial: children are being given smartphones younger and younger (I got my first iPhone when I was 11) and parents need to be sure their children understand the responsibility and the possible abuses of smartphone ownership.

    I also agree that teens who sext should not be labeled sex offenders or child pornographers. Laws do need to adapt to changing technology. A teen should not ruin his life because he sent another teen a solicited nude photo.

    Or just be like me: I waited until I was 18 and in college to start sexting. :) Practice safe sext, everybody.
     
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    Yeah - Totally agree - It's ridiculous...

    Good luck getting any changes right now though. I just roll my eyes every time some lawmaker is on TV insisting that "man and woman traditional family values is the only way"..

    Umm - ok - whatever old guy.
    For you maybe..., that's fine - But there are many ways to slice the fruit in life.

    Don't tell others how they need to live.
     
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    Agreed, although for the cases where the person who received it then spreads it around to all of their friends I’m less bothered by that person being labeled a sex offender.
     
  9. BoxerGT2.5, Feb 27, 2018
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    Real easy, don't send a picture of yourself in your birthday suit to anyone. It's not that hard.
     
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    ^ This. You would think it wouldn't be that difficult, a great example of this is Taylor Swift who publicly stated something like "you'll never see a nude of me because I'll never have one on my phone". That said though, I am a little older so it's easy for me to say "stop that, kids!" but the younger generation has basically digitized their lives so I don't want to be that guy.
     
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    When I was in high school (mid 90's) the best we could hope for was a chick giving you her panties.
     
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    the 80s too...

    sixteen_candles.jpg
     
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    How effective a message is that to hormonal teens under various peer pressures?

    Attentive parents with great communication I am sure the message is internalized.
    But in today's world how many parents have the spare time, focus, and obedience of child to address these matters.

    Schools are designed to take the burden of teaching off the parent (so they can be productive to society in general), so schools are a primary source (in general) of teaching this, and more importantly reinforcing this lesson. Parents may tell their children, but how well do they retain?
     
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    That depends on what you feel the role of the school is in your community. These "hormonal teenagers" view just about every authoritarian figure as full of ****, parents or teacher doesn't matter. At times you can tell them something until you're blue in the face, they don't believe you. They have to find out the consequence on their own. Depending on the subject it didn't matter who told me, parent or teacher. If I was determined that "I knew best", which is often the case with teenagers, the school isn't going to tell them something I haven't already told him. Focus on getting his math scores up.

    Maybe I'm in the minority because I've never looked towards someone other than myself or my wife to teach my kids about things such as this, drugs, the dangers of motorcycles, etc. There are many things that are pretty cut and dry, sending out nude photo's of yourself is one of them, snorting cocaine would be another, surfing on the roof of your friends van at 45mph would qualify as one as well. Not everything has to be a clinic in adolescent psychology.
     
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    Does no one remember Polaroids?
     
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    Actually I do, but it was rare. We actually had a girl in high school who allowed herself to have a Polaroid taken of her topless while at a party. That picture was xeroxed and plastered on every light pole and tree up and down Central Rd when her ex-BF got a hold of it. She had to drop out of school and her parents moved. That was the only case in 4yrs at the time.

    I don't know maybe when I was in high school it was pretty evident that was a stupid thing to do, that you knew it would eventually lead to you losing control over your privacy. I didn't need a 50min lecture from the 70yr old health teacher who still referred to gonorrhea in high school as "the clap" covering the topic. Then again we have kids eating tide pods so maybe I'm giving them too much credit. Scary to think as we've heard some on the left begin to argue for the voting age to be lowered to 16 in the wake of the Parkland movement and all the fine wisdom those kids have spread.
     
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    Don't tell teens not to do this or that.
    Tell them what could happen, risks and consequences, and give examples of others who have done it wrong, and those who have done it correctly (if possible).

    Make the challenge of sane/safe results.
    They like to skate board? challenge not to scrape elbows instead of not skating at all.
     
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    How much do you think risk and consequences sinks in to a group of individuals who believe their invincible? A group who routinely believes they know better and have it figured out or that believes everyone else either didn't do it right or is just stupid.

    Case in point, my oldest was told to stay off his friends "dirt bike" because it's unsafe. We used his uncle, who is going on his 10th surgery to stabilize his left eye from the motorcycle accident he was in over two years ago. Guess what decision my son made? His reasoning, "I just wanted to try it". His teacher giving him that message would have sunk in even less. It isn't that hard, don't snap a photo of your jugs, your ho-ha, or your pecker and expect for it to remain for their eyes only. Say goodbye to whatever dignity and self respect you think you may have. I can't think of a time were it "might be OK/a good idea" to send your junk to anyone. Like there really isn't a grey area here, especially with teens.
     
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    Who'd have thunk it wasn't even more than that, that is...
     
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    In America, teen sexting is considered a "child porn" and a major felony even though it is willingly created and sent by that "child" (some states are making exceptions).

    This is screwed up. We as a society are screwed up. In no way does nudity equate to pornography especially when it is sent by consenting teens. If one of the parties is not consenting, then there could be some legal jeopardy, but it’s still not child porn. Call it something else, and have appropriate punishment. What really annoys me is when this stuff is propelled by hypocrite religious conservatives who end up caught with their fingers in the cookie jar.
     
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    First define what a "child" is? Because the definition seems to change on a whim depending upon the subject matter. You either have the mental capacity of and adult or you don't, straight across the board.
     
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    In view of conservatives does such a thing as healthy sexual development exist for teens? I’ll say no. I’m surprised that chastity belts have not come back into vogue. ;)
     
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    I guess that depends on what "healthy sexual development" looks like. There's some on the far left that would include things that most really don't want to think about. I'm talking about doing things that end up with ER staff posting up various items pulled out of rectal cavities on instagram.

    It goes both ways, but I think conservatives just want to sweep it under the rug and not talk about it. They want their 14yr olds shooting deer with their fathers, reading the bible, and going to church every Sunday. Meanwhile the guy they put in office to represent their values is soliciting men in a airport bathroom or banging porn stars in Vegas. Don't get me wrong, the left is equally full of **** themselves.
     
  24. jeyf, Mar 1, 2018
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    -Somewhere in between, some and most adults never grew up. just saying there is no reference.


    -would you allow your child to sex their significant other in YOUR house vs in a car?
    -would you be able to have that conversation with your child if she were gay
    -your child may need skills that have not even been invented yet, how important are YOUR values?
     
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    Puberty has a historical basis for adulthood, but this was when most people died in their 40s. I believe the marriage age was 13 in some places. We have advanced since then, but our biology remains the same. It seems like the don’t touch standard is a failure. My impression there is no such thing as healthy sexual development because that is the standard- don’t touch, don’t pleasure yourself despite a strong biological drive to do exactly that.

    I’m not saying I have a good answer. There seems to be no activity considered healthy accept abstinence. The obvious goal is to avoid pregnancy and STDs and to keep kids focused on their education, not getting bogged down in relationships that derail the child’s ability to achieve a secure place in society/professional lives.
     

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