3 Pills - $US 350.00

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  1. xsedrinam macrumors 601

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    My mother-n-law is 78. She has an infection, the result of minor surgery last week, so the nurse from the doctor's office called to advise her that they called in a prescription for an antibiotic at Walgreens this afternoon. She went to pick it up. 3 pills. $US 350.00. She walked out and said she'd take her chances. I don't blame her. What can be done about:

    (1) Pharmaceutical Industry Lobbyist presence in Washington and the need to erase this administration and their attached-at-the-hip leeches from the D.C. area come November?
    (2) immorality - aren't avarice and gouging included in the top 10 list of cardinal sins (or whatever they're referred to)?
    (3) oppression of the widow, the aged and poverty level populace who cannot afford medical care?

    I know this is old/news/new/news, but had to vent in livid color. If there are no responses, I understand. Yawn here, and carry on.
     
  2. swiftaw macrumors 603

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    Yeah, some pills are expensive, did she ask if there was a generic version, those are always much cheaper if available.

    The pharmaceutical industry owns the government.
     
  3. xsedrinam thread starter macrumors 601

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    Yes. The generic was $US300.00
     
  4. swiftaw macrumors 603

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    Wow
     
  5. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    Which antibiotic was it?

    Because there are probably hundreds of antibiotics out there she could have used. Sometimes I think these doctors go golfing with their drug reps and get convinced to prescribe a certain drug. I would ask him to prescribe something cheaper.
     
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    Part of the problem is some (most?) of the pharmacies keep the prices of drugs artificially high so they make the same amount of profit whether someone gets the name brand or the generic. I know someone who used to work for a drug company and they said the big pharmacy chains would typically pocket the price cut when generics would come out instead of passing it along to the consumer.


    Lethal
     
  7. it5five macrumors 65816

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    The pharmaceutical industry is a joke. Other countries around the world pay far far far far less for the same drugs we pay hundreds for here. Time to get lobbying groups out of our government.

    On another note, I'm surprised Swarmlord hasn't come in here saying that she deserves to pay those high prices.
     
  8. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Why of course she deserves to pay those high prices, it was her fault for getting the infection :rolleyes:

    Whenever I pick up my prescriptions each month, I feel happy that I'm only paying $20 for both of them (generics FTW) especially since Walgreens prints on the sheet how much insurance saved you...so I'm thinking "Oh wow, insurance saved me 50 bucks!"

    And then I realize how much cheaper this would be in other countries and feel like I was just screwed out of 20 bucks that would have been better spent on something else....like beer :D
     
  9. iBlue macrumors Core

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    Precisely what I was going to say/ask.



    That's ridiculous. There are very few infections that can't be treated with an antibiotic that runs around the $20 range.

    BTW, Walgreens seems to be notoriously bad for marking up prices, in my experience. Not that they could mark something up THAT much but I'm just sayin'.
     
  10. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    Although it's easy claim it's a medical conspiracy to make money I'd really suggest that she gets those antibiotics or at least seeks a second opinion. If she'd picked up an infection just going about her daily business then a cheap penicillin (or like) would have done the trick no problems. However when one gets an infection in hospital following surgery chances are things are going to much worse. Commonly bacteria that colonise hospitals are far more resistant to common antibiotics and are also usually far different varieties than one comes into contact in their day to day activities. Hence you need to use a more specialised antibiotic which unfortunately means more expensive.

    At 78 I'd really advice against taking her chances. She'd already be relatively immunosuppressed at her age, and without knowing what surgery she had or bacteria she's been infected with, the complications could be very severe or fatal.

    Edit: xsedrinam if you can get ahold of the microbiology results and the antibiotic sensitivity tests of your mother in law it would be interesting. I might even be able to run them past my infectious diseases registrar tomorrow to see what she recommends if you like (and if she's got time).

    Infections that are community acquired yes. Infections picked up following surgery or whilst admitted in hospital unfortunately, usually no. Hospitals are filthy places for insane bacteria, as are elderly women (and men) who are in and out regularly.
     
  11. yg17 macrumors G5

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    I've never noticed that at Walgreens, then again, I have pretty small copays so I wouldn't notice. One thing that annoys me a bit is that one of my prescriptions is 4 bucks at Wal-Mart (they have that cheap generic program) but Walgreens doesn't have it. I still spend the extra 6 bucks to not go to wally world, but I wish Walgreens had something like that.
     
  12. iBlue macrumors Core

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    Yes, but that's a part of the "very few" I mentioned.
    If it isn't a community acquired infection, I would think that the hospital themselves may be liable for one of their superbad infections. (?)

    Either way, I think she should go either to another doctor or ring back this one and ask for a reasonably priced antibiotic. I don't think she should take her chances, especially when there are other antibiotics out there.
     
  13. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    Not really. Like I said those whom are elderly who are in and out of hospital are often colonised with MRSA (etc) themselves so it's impossible to determine that the infection actually came from the hospital. Also infections following surgery can't be avoided at all - it's a roll of the dice (although you do everything possible to avoid complications such as regular clean dressings, prophylactic antibiotics, isolation etc). It's just one of those things. The hospital would only be liable if they were somehow demonstrably negligent in their pre and post-operative care.
     
  14. xsedrinam thread starter macrumors 601

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    "What kind of antibiotic was it?" was the first question I asked her. She couldn't remember or just didn't know. She thinks she's allergic to penicillin, though that must be in recent months since we don't recall that in her history. I'll see what I can find out. With HIPAA firmly entrenched in the U.S., they're reluctant to give out medical info to a son in law who doesn't have POA. I'll see if my wife can get some solid information from them, tomorrow.
     
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    That's unbelievable, if the medicine costs that much maybe she should be in hospital for treatment seeing as the cost is that high!

    One good thing about Wales, we get free prescriptions.
     
  17. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    That's just awful. Exactly the sort of thing mentioned in "Sicko", I had no idea of the situation with regard to the price of medication over there until I saw that.

    <praises NHS for £6.75 fixed cost for any medication by prescription*>



    *even though NHS definitely have their faults too.
     
  18. bartelby macrumors Core

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    Praises Wales' free prescriptions! :D
     
  19. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    Twunting Wales, grrrrrrrrr! :p
     
  20. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    If she is like me - she could be allergic or immune to many of them. But $300 is still insane.

    Even with my recurring infections - the most I've ever had to pay for a weeks antibiotic course was €89 / $119

    What I also don't understand is 3 pills ? That's a very strange course of antibiotics altogether. Usually it's a week or 10 day course ? How does 3 work out ? strange..
     
  21. takao macrumors 68040

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    it's not free here either but it's 3.60 euros which is still gazillion times less
     
  22. solvs macrumors 603

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    Ditto. I once had a medication that was around $800 for a 30 day supply. I'm sure some people are perfectly fine with that, but it really shouldn't be that bad. And we all have horror stories proving it is.
     
  23. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    It's easier to whine about it and blame Bush.
     
  24. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    I'm all for forcing our pharma companies to charge the same for their drugs whether they are sold in the states here or overseas.
     
  25. bartelby macrumors Core

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    They probably do. But in other countries the governments/health care systems absorbe a large amount of the costs instead of companies hiking the price to make a buck or two from the sick.
     

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