3GHZ P4 here Nov. 14th.

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by peter2002, Oct 7, 2002.

  1. peter2002 macrumors 6502

    Aug 1, 2002
    Dallas, TX
    Darn that Intel is making it tuff for those "switchers". The new 3GHZ P4 systems will be the first to support "hyperthreading", which increases performance another 30% or more by activating a new section of the P4 silicon that acts like a new processor. Although you need a new motherboard and chipset to activate the feature.


  2. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    Will the power4 be too little too late for Apple? This is crazy that things keep getting upped in the PC world and we're dealing with 1.25 GHz and using duals to try and keep up.

  3. vniow macrumors G4

    Jul 18, 2002
    I accidentally my whole location.
    Okay, this is the COMMUNITY section. If you want to post a bunch of computer news, I suggest you put future posts like this in the general Mac, or seeing as this is PC news, the Current Events.:)
  4. sparkleytone macrumors 68020


    Oct 28, 2001
    Greensboro, NC
    peter2002 you are my personal hero. not only are you an unabashed pc zealot, but you also seem to be completely comfortable with your lower than average IQ. i salute you. i guess just because you are dimwitted doesn't mean you can't flaunt it.
  5. PCUser macrumors regular

    Mar 1, 2002
    I hope I'm not the only sane person using a PC...

    3GHz? So what. 5 GHz? Big whup. Can it perform as much work per cycle as a G4? Comparing a chip on it's clockspeed alone is really, really ignorant.

    "Hyperthreading". Cool sounding name. I suggest you read the Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/paedia/h/hyperthreading/hyperthreading-1.html) explaination of what it is. It will increase performace in some areas, and decrease it in others. Since it makes the chip act as two chips, it's only understandable that it cause slowdowns when two threads want the same part of the chip.

    But, none of that matters to peter2002. Why am I even bothering to respond to a troll? Arg.
  6. scem0 macrumors 604


    Jul 16, 2002
    back in NYC!
    Bohoo, it will take us 2 seconds longer to open IE - which is crap in the 1st place. I really don't care that much about speed. It is price that I am worried about. Macs will never be used if only 10% of computer users can afford them.
  7. Hemingray macrumors 68030


    Jan 9, 2002
    Ha ha haaa!
    Huh? I musta missed something. Remind me why we're bashing this guy?

    Frankly, I'm GLAD he mentioned this. I don't read PC news hardly ever, so when articles like this do come our way I read them so I know how Apple's holding up against the PC world's current offerings.
  8. vniow macrumors G4

    Jul 18, 2002
    I accidentally my whole location.
    I think everybody's being nostangic about his X-Book, world's most powerful notebook thread.:p

    But in OTHER PC CPU newz, AMD is going to release their 64-bit Clawhammer soon that will be marketed as 3400+.
  9. dricci macrumors 6502a

    Dec 15, 2001
    Arn should start a site called PCRumors.. Not only would all of the trolls have a place to hang out, he could make a killing from Intel and Dell buying Ad Space on the site!
  10. MarkW19 macrumors 65816

    Sep 13, 2002
    Surrey, UK
    As someone else said, who cares how fast PC's get? Who cares when Microsoft launch a new version of crappy Windows?

    The Mac is nicer to use, more elegant, and you get more things done, in less time, ultimately, and with a lot less hassle, which = faster in the long run. Sorry, how many times does Mac OS 10.2 crash?

    And Windows?

    Ahh, ok.

    (Ironically - or not - the only thing that has ever crashed on my DP867 with 10.2, despite me trying to excessively crash it, is IE. Hmm...)
  11. vniow macrumors G4

    Jul 18, 2002
    I accidentally my whole location.
    We should be concerned how fast the PC world is getting because 3Ghz vs. 1.25 Ghz (duals or not) doesn't look good.
    The average consumer doesn't know about pipelines, hyperthreading or Altivec, they're going to look at the numbers and when they see what they percieve to be a faster computer, guess which one they're going to choose.

    Like it or not, that's how most people in the PC world view things.
    It's as simple as that.
    They're starting to realize that numbers aren't everything, (take a look at Intel's latest commercial, it advertizes multimedia stuff, not Ghz) but it's still a long way off.
    Right now, Apple does not look like the speediest computers on the market and that's hurting their sales and their image.
  12. funkywhat2 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 14, 2002
    while i agree that we may have to begining to worry, very few mainstream pc's surpass 2.0 GHz. Really, only machines just purchased, say within the last two months or so, are at that speed. Ask anyone that you know with a pc, and i'll bet that they say either 1.5, 1.7 or 1.8 GHz. Unless they have lots of $, they're really wasteful, or they waste way too much of their life gaming.

    P.S.-while may come off at first as a hine, it's not:p :)
  13. MacAztec macrumors 68040


    Oct 28, 2001
    San Luis Obispo, CA
    I think that hammer chip will be pretty friggin awesome. I hope the Powe4 comes soon....
  14. MacAztec macrumors 68040


    Oct 28, 2001
    San Luis Obispo, CA
    Im buying a PC....

    Yes, its true. I am keeping my macs though.

    I am building a GAMING and VIDEO STORAGE PC. I worked out everything that I will buy, and its a pretty nice PC, for a pretty cheap price:

    Coolermaster Case
    Gigabyte Mobo with USB 2.0/Firewire/RAID/PC 2100 or higher
    AMD Athlon 2100+ XP
    Networking cards, DDR RAM, 80GB HD
    Radeon 9000 AIW
    SoundBlaster Gamers Edition Card
    Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
    All the other little things...(fans, power, etc.)
    Viewsonic 17in PF Monitor

    All for 800 dollars, I think thats a pretty nice deal. I am going to run Windows NT too...
  15. vniow macrumors G4

    Jul 18, 2002
    I accidentally my whole location.
    Re: Im buying a PC....

    You might want to check ATI's site again for that one.;)

    Yeah when I get a Mac, I'll probably keep my PC for well, PC stuff.
    Hopefully I will have abolished Windoze by then and have a working Lindows box.
    Maybe even with a +3400 AMD Clawhammer in the future.:p

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