40,000 Union Members Leave AFL-CIO Over Obamacare

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Technarchy, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. Technarchy macrumors 604


    May 21, 2012
    I'm a supporter of universal healthcare, not Obamacare.

    Looks like a big chunk of union labor feels the same, and are making the AFL-CIO feel the pain for backing Obamacare.


  2. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    I wouldn't expect unions members to be immune to disinformation.
  3. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    One more note ...

    According to this source, the AFL-CIO comprises 1.6 million members.

    That means 40,000 members is ~2.5% of the overall membership.

    Pardon me for thinking that the term "bloodbath" for this purported loss is a bit of hyperbole.
  4. Technarchy thread starter macrumors 604


    May 21, 2012
    With union membership in free fall, 40,000 walking out the door is going to hurt any labor organization.

  5. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    I went to the ILWU website, to their pressroom section to see what they had to say on the issue.

    Quotes below can be found at: http://www.longshoreshippingnews.com/2013/09/longshore-union-quits-the-afl-cio/

    The next paragraph addresses Obamacare ...

    So Obamacare doesn't go far enough for them (yes I understand you article said the same thing). Like many people such as myself, they support single-payer healthcare and were disappointed that the AFL-CIO didn't push hard enough for their preferred government run plan.

    But apparently, that is just a small piece of the puzzle. According to the ILWU the major factor for disaffiliation has nothing to do with Obamacare at all.

    So the ILWU is really concerned with workers rights, not necessarily healthcare in particular, and felt that the AFL-CIO wasn't supporting them as much as they wanted or expected.

    Somehow this gets spun into "40,000 Union Members Leave AFL-CIO Over Obamacare".

    As usual the real story isn't as simple as the spin doctors would like us to believe.
  6. dime21 macrumors 6502

    Dec 9, 2010
    Obamacare is a complete turd. It needs to be crushed and defunded. It was sold to us as as cost-saving measure, a counter to the rising cost of private health care. Then they admitted that it was actually going to cost more than the current private system. Now, it's going to cost so much more, that these crooked labor unions want out. They want special treatment. And the Obama administration is looking into how they can achieve that.


    Not to mention the fact that Congress and their staffers have all been granted exemptions from Obamacare:


    And on top of that, Obamacare administrators are exempt from participating as well. It seems like eventually, every Democrat constituency will be exempted from Obamacare!

    If Obamacare is so great, why is Obama granting exemptions from it to all his buddies? What a scam.
  7. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030


    Feb 9, 2010
    Fox News would be proud of this post.

  8. Cave Man macrumors 604

    Cave Man

    Feb 12, 2007
    Neander Valley, Germany; just outside Duesseldorf
    You should know by now that facts, truth and rationale have no effect on conservatives.
  9. TheHateMachine macrumors 6502a


    Sep 18, 2012
    Houston, TX
  10. CaptMurdock macrumors 6502a


    Jan 2, 2009
    The Evildrome Boozerama

  11. Cave Man macrumors 604

    Cave Man

    Feb 12, 2007
    Neander Valley, Germany; just outside Duesseldorf
    How, in today's world, can someone be so uninformed?
  12. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    Obama Derangement Syndrome.

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