4th Mac-5 domino falls? A clue to timing of next Air?

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by thinkdesign, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. thinkdesign macrumors 6502

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    See new rumor on news page. Though it doesn't say what the iMacs are switching to.

    If the iMacs debut in August or September or so, per this rumor... then I guess the Air's debut happens (if at all) sometime after that? Sigh.

    Sounds like either 3/5 or maybe even 4/5 of Scottsdale's Mac-5 theory has now been validated.

    But if the Air's going to, chips-wise, skip ahead of how the MacBook and the Mini got bumped... perhaps it's debut date has no relation to the iMac's?

    What impact does this new iMac story have on predicting -- late summer vs. early fall vs. late fall... for the Air?
     
  2. saxon48 macrumors 6502a

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    It's all speculation here, sadly.

    I'm placing my bet that both will be updated by year's end (Mac Pro included), but not sure the exact order that will occur.
     
  3. gan6660 macrumors 65816

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    Jobs did say that there were amazing new products still left for this year, so maybe its a total redesign.
     
  4. xparaparafreakx macrumors 65816

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    September iPod classic, iPod Nano and iPod Touch? New Products, not new macs. I freaking give up on getting a new Air and Mac Pro.
     
  5. nobackup macrumors member

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    Just a thought if they are ditching the 21.5 is that not simply due to Intel sun setting the chips.. I also read some where that its EOL for Core2Duo this FALL and as the Air is based on a C2D then they (Apple) need to update... as AFAIK only the "A" was based on a custom chip ...
     
  6. AtmChm macrumors regular

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    My $0.02

    I'm guessing the following updates in order:

    1. iMacs in August (the rumors of shortages on the mini this past June were followed by an update only a couple of weeks later.)

    2. Mac Pro (though it's not clear it really needs an update.)

    3. iPod touch in September (other iPod touch refreshes have happened in September. They seem to always follow a refresh to the iPhone [makes sense] and after they've flushed out all the old models with the "back to school" freebies.)

    4. Apple TV (I'm guess this is what Jobs was referring to with "amazing products to come.")

    I've given up on a real MBA update, though the AMD/ATI theory for an update seems quite plausible. However, if it happens I think it is a pipe dream to expect a lower price unless it is substantially scaled down somehow. I mean, I thought they would update the mini and keep the same price, but they jacked it $100!
     
  7. thinkdesign thread starter macrumors 6502

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    New iPods fulfill the "amazing new products" remark?

    The iPods, even if the Touch is updated to match the iPhone4, would be a rather modest payoff on a very big-sounding "amazing new" promise.

    Was the quote "amazing new products" or was it some word other than "products"? Was it vague enough to encompas services, too? I suppose if Apple manages to sign deals with movie companies, that a new service (using the increased capacity of the new server farm) could be part of what's "amazing (and) new". Though a service like that doesn't presently interest me.

    What does interest me is - Can or will Apple actually deliver on its "MOBILITY" rhetoric? I do not need a keyboardless phone (i.e., trying to dial a call in sunlight can be hard) that does 300 miscellaneous things.... while dropping 20-30% of its calls in Manhattan... and having glass with exposed edges on front and back as if it's almost "designed to break".

    The "Touch" is in that 'mobile' category too, but I have no need for something duplicating what my smartphone does.

    What I do need is for the "mobile" spin talk to actually get applied to Apple's long in the tooth laptops.... which look more portable than they really are... if you try to lift one. They're all very overweight, except the Air. The Air and the plastic MacBook's cases are so fragile, that it's a stretch to say they work for the truly mobile worker.

    If you add a pound or two of padding to a MacBook Air before slipping it into a shoulder bag, (which maybe slightly helps the hinge-area problem.... but surely doesn't help the "white donut" problem or the gouged-bezel problem which are caused by forces acting in a crushing direction), THEN you've lost that big attraction of "3-pounds"-plus-charging-brick weight. And since Apple neglects to offer a 3G modem, you buy that in the form of an accessory dangling off the side, which of course then destroys the Air's wonderful aesthetic slickness which you just paid a premium for.

    All this while the competition has equally light notebooks, with all the Air's missing features -- options for internal cellular modems, big enough RAM, big enough memory, a better keyboard (the thinkpads), etc.

    "Thin", by itself, means nothing to the mobile worker. Lightness does. But it has to be lightness with durability and battery life... in a world with what seems a declining number of power outlets for the mobile worker to mooch off. And in a world where nearly everyone seems to be locking up their Wi-Fi modems, "MOBILITY" requires the Air to succeed at 4 things: Light+Durable+long battery life+3G.

    An antiquated design which succeeds at only 1 out of 4 of those criteria... is a design tthat acheives the aesthetic image of "mobility", more than the substance of mobility.

    Emergency Room doctor: "So, the law requires me to ask.... how did you break your foot?"

    Patient: "I dropped my heavy MacBook Pro, which is easy to do since it has no handle or gripping-traction surfaces or grippable shapes of any kind -- in its design. Even though it was designed by "a mobility company."

    C'mon, Apple. Time to start living up to the "mobility" rhetoric, in the smaller end of your laptop line!
     

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