5 Myths About Cuba

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  1. thewitt macrumors 68020

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    I will have to try a nicaraguan cigar mentioned in the top 25 -rated #1. Thank you!

    Wonder what the underlying reason was for Obama to visit Cuba..
     
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    What they said about Che, whose mug is on shirts and caps of moronic liberal collegiates and some movie stars.

    " revolutionary chic comes with a high moral price tag: After the revolution, Guevara oversaw the execution by firing squad of between 55 and several hundred prisoners, including officials from the previous government, whom he lined up after kangaroo-court trials. He also launched a system of labor camps that became home to gay people, AIDS victims and political opponents."
     
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    None of this really matters. The point is that the embargo has accomplished nothing. Like the war on drugs, keeping it going is idiotic.
     
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    Cuba does in fact have the world's best cigars. Granted not every brand is that good but Cohibas and Partagas blow away the best Dominican cigar. If it weren't for the US market, the whole Dominican cigar industry probably would not even exist since every other country in the world smokes Cubans exclusively.
     
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    do you smoke cigars?

    thats simply not true. todays cohibas are nothing special.
     
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    Admittedly, the quality of the Cohibas has gone down some during the last several years because of excessive demand and the fact they're not letting the cigars age long enough. Also, the quality does vary within each brand of Cuban cigar. For instance, I don't particular care for Cohiba Esplendidos even though they're the most popular Cohiba. I usually smoke Cohiba Cañonazos or Siglo IIs which are more economical. And the Partagas Serie D No.4 are also awesome cigars. I've tried various other Cuban brands like MonteCristos and Romeo y Julietas and really didn't care for them.
     
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    The article is saying that's a myth. In other words, lifting the embargo will help liberalize the country.
     
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    Well it's definitly better than what other 3rd world countries with a similar GDP/person have to offer.

    Putting an embargo on Cuba over toppling a corrupt and murderous dictator while openly doing trade with south-american military juntas, apartheid regimes in southern africa and generaly nutheads all around the world did achive nothing expecpt giving the Castros an easy scapegoat for all their failures.

    Never cared bout Che or cigars.
     
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    It's obvious: Castro is dying. (if he's not already). They know it's a matter of months (speculation from my part) and Raul is old too. The ruling elites know it's time to shift, and they want it to be done as smoothly as possible so that they can profit in the transition, and become the economic elites.
     
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    And you really beleive the BS put together in the WP article?
    Have you ever been to Cuba? Do you smoke cigars?
     
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    a man of taste :)

    have you tried the higher end davidoffs? they're good IMO
     
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    Not so. The embargo proved that the US will stick consistently to a matter of principle, as long as it isn't covered too much by the media.
     
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    No. If it was about principles, then, as another poster already posted, we wouldn't be doing business with countries that are far worse.

    The embargo, like the war on drugs, just proves that the US doesn't like to admit it was wrong and would rather just sit on something that doesn't work rather than try to fix it.
     
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    + trying to win/keep votes from ex-Cubans living in Florida
     
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    Depends on the principle in question. If we're talking about the Imperialist Monroe Doctrine, then sure, we've been very principled about our view that we should dominate the hemisphere. So principled that we've assassinated leaders, toppled democratic governments (or killed the leader before the vote could even happen), propped up strongman dictators, etc.


    Very principled you see.
     
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    Wrong? About what? That Communism is a disease and only isolation could prevent its spreading? That dictator Castro is as bad or worse than dictator Batista?

    Please be more specific.
     
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    Wrong about the embargo having any useful effect at all.

    Look at how great it worked to get Castro out of power... Oh, wait...


    Clearly the US has no problem with doing business with communist countries. After all, most of our cheap plastic consumable **** now comes from China...
     
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    LIES! :mad:
     
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    I guess you mean that the embargo's disruption of Cuba's economy wasn't useful. I disagree.

    That was Kennedy's fault. After the Cuban missile crisis, JFK promised that the US would never invade Cuba again.

    If it wasn't for that, we'd have Grenada'd Cuba years ago.

    What we don't like is commie countries in our hemisphere.
     
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    Grenada didn't end up too well for us, in the eye of the rest of the world, especially with the UN voting 108 to 9 in condemning the invasion as a flagrant violation of international law, with our biggest allies voting to condemn us.

    In short, if you want to keep support of your allies, you don't piss them off. But then again, seeing your stance on issues here, you're not so keen on following the law, and the rule of such law.

    We don't own this hemisphere. We never have; we never will. Additionally, thank you for showing all of us how imperialist you really are; as if it wasn't something we didn't already know.

    BL.
     
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    Without it there is a good chance that socialism in Cuba would have collapsed around 1990 when Soviet support dried out, but having that easy scapegoat made it far to easy for the Castros to potray every dissident as an US spy.

    And for the next 100 years poisened the well of Cuba having a pro-US goverment that is NOT a brutal dictatorship.
     
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    Some have suggested: "To open up trade so jobs could go there at low low slave wages for his corporate masters". Or to let stores open up there, like how Apple has opened up in Iran... don't people keep up with the news anymore? All this fluff came from MSM sites, which - by their actions are anything but the anti-business liberal left that it is accused of being, ironically...
     
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    Nope but I'll have to give them a try.
     

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