6 Top Doctors' Associations Make Last-Ditch Plea To Oppose GOP Healthcare Bill

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  1. samcraig macrumors P6

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    The group included presidents of the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the American College of Physicians, the American Osteopathic Association and the American Psychiatric Association. Together, the associations represent half a million doctors in the United States who deliver primary care for kids and their parents.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...65cf3e9b69b7071abcb1c/?utm_term=.a8741afcbe4a
     
  2. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    For those that don't open up private browsers to read:

    Unlike previous efforts to change the U.S. health-care sytem, neither drug companies nor care providers have played a significant role in crafting the GOP push to overhaul Obamacare. Indeed, most of the Senate bill has been written behind closed doors, as I've written, with even key Republican senators lacking knowledge about what's in various drafts. But that doesn't mean that outside stakeholders haven't done what they could to let their views be known.

    The providers' push started last November, when then-candidate Donald Trump's win opened a window for Republicans to repeal the Affordable Care Act and the groups banded together as one unit to protect the ACA's coverage expansions. At a November meeting of the American Medical Association, the presidents of these groups asked their staff to start plotting.

    “We had our first meeting in early December and kind of started mapping through the strategy,” AAFP lobbyist Shawn Martin told me.

    Since then, the groups have visited Capitol Hill five times to urge House and Senate Republicans not to enact legislation that would overhaul the ACA and dramatically reverse its coverage gains. They don’t think the present law is perfect by any means, but they’re deeply worried about the Senate health-care bill’s deep Medicaid cuts -- that is, what that would mean for the ability of low-income families to receive care – and how the bill provides a pathway for states to opt out of its mandatory essential health benefits.

    it goes on...
     
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    There's also this: the wishful bringer of death to Obamacare in its entirety, one Sen. Ted Cruz, has proposed (as I predicted in some other thread awhile back) an amendment that would wreck the insurers' ability to maintain a viable market in short order. Not clear whether the Senate will take it up as an attempt to bring over some of the seven GOP votes still resisting McConnell's earlier drafts.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article160970389.html

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    A proposal to let Obamacare insurers sell skimpier coverage will be the wildcard in efforts to pass the revised Republican health care bill that’s expected to be unveiled on Thursday.

    And in the opinion of both America’s insurance companies and one of the leading non-partisan health think tanks, it’s a bad idea that could devastate the health insurance market.

    The amendment to the Better Care Reconciliation Act by Republican Senators Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah would let insurers sell cheaper, less-comprehensive “junk insurance” if they also sell a plan that complies with the Affordable Care Act’s requirement that individual plans cover 10 essential health benefits.

    Conservative Republicans, such as Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, who still oppose the BCRA, have praised the Cruz-Lee amendment for giving consumers more coverage choices.

    But on Wednesday, the industry trade group America’s Health Insurance Plans blasted the proposal, saying it would destabilize insurance markets and trigger a death spiral, a phenomenon in which enrollment sharply declines and insurers eventually stop offering coverage due to a situation known as “adverse selection.” That’s when healthy people opt for cheaper coverage, causing premiums to increase dramatically for sicker people who retain more comprehensive insurance.

    “Unfortunately, this proposal would fracture and segment insurance markets into separate risk pools (for the healthy and unhealthy) and create an un-level playing field that would lead to widespread adverse selection and unstable health insurance markets,” the organization said in a memo it released Wednesday.
    In other words, if you don't feel like participating but you don't like the idea of penalties on signing up late or having to wait for coverage when you change your mind, you could just sorta "cheat" by signing up for a junk plan that probably won't cover your kids' hangnail but lets you buy another Harley in the meantime... because you're all young and healthy and immortal (and because hospitals can't run on air is their problem not yours). A disaster for risk pools, almost immediately, in the climate we live in today.

     
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    Guys you don't get it.

    It. Is. All. About. Tax. Cuts. For. The. Wealthy.
     
  5. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    We get it. And it's unfortunate that people's lives will be in danger if it passes - and then it will be too late.
     
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    Then people should have held their noses and voted for Hilary.

    Fortunately the people most likely to be harmed by the new law live in states run by the Republicans themselves, as in the richer Democratic states the states themselves will fund this stuff.
     
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    Yeah, that's a horrible nuisance ...


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    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-single-payer-health-care-will-never-ever-happen/
    Hillary concentrated on social justice issues, not HC during her cheating days.
     
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    sell out DR's?
    so PREVIOUSLY when the ACA was passed the CO's that had the most the lose helped craft the fiasco that was oclueless care.
    THIS time they have no input , as it SHOULD BE.
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    war hawk crooked criminal.................

    I am fine with medicaid being cut as long as they get some protection or the money goes towards getting people insured, 800 billion in cut, just how much is wasted?
    at 12k for family policy it would take say 1.6 trillion to insure everyone ??? 320 million people , family is at least 2 per....
     
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    CEase fire in Syria...
     
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    Hillary. Obama. Earl Grey Tea. Tacos. Madonna.
     
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    EDIT: guess I'm supposed to put a description... erm... let's take a break...

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    Because we all know that Obama care is much better for a majority of people :).
     
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    Yea? You sure about that? How many "cease fires" has the US negotiated with Putin and Assad already? This is, what, the 14th one or something? You think this is the one that will last?
     
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    I hope it does we have no business there
     
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    Missile attack in Syria. More U.S. troops to Afghanistan. Arms sale to Saudis.
     
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    Oh I agree it's not a high bar. Still the republicans have failed to meet it.
     
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    And yet Canada, France, England, Sweden, etc. somehow manage to do it.
     
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    Exactly........ said is a few times. BOTH dems & repubs sold out to the insurance cos
     
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    You are under the assumption that the Democrats would actually be HONEST and tell those in the lower 50% of the income bracket that this isn't "free". Also, you're not getting $12k out of a family of 4 when dad makes $42,000 a year.
     
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    Is it a good thing or a bad thing that drug companies are not crafting the law?
     
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    good IMHO. them getting involved is how oclueless care became a mess.
     
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    Maybe you should get Canada or Europe to help craft the bill, consulting with insurance companies that fund your campaign didn't seem to work last time.
     

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