7 year old girl fatally shot in botched police raid.


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This is a tragic accident. The fault for this incident is, in my opinion, entirely with the girls parents/ family who created a situation in their house which neccesitated police action. Sadly her families actions caused her untimely death.
 

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fta said:
Police were executing a search warrant in the search for the suspect in a shooting Friday that killed a high school student.

Godbee said the 34-year-old suspect was found and arrested at the home where the girl was shot. In addition, a vehicle and a moped matching the descriptions of those involved in the shooting of 17-year-old Jarean Blake were also found, he said.


Fieger called the explanation from police "entirely false."

"Of course, I have seen the videotape and the videotape vividly portrays the fact that a percussion grenade device was thrown through the front window and a shot was fired immediately from the outside from the porch," he said.

"No murder suspect was found in Aiyana's house," Fieger said in Monday's interview. "In fact, there's an upstairs apartment next door which the police did not have a search warrant for and that is where he surrendered, they went into that house too. But he was not in Aiyana's house."

Aiyana's father, Charles Jones, also has denied that the suspect was in his home.

Detroit police spokesman Phillip Cook told reporters Monday that he was not aware of the video and declined to comment. The investigation, he said, has been taken over by state police to preserve the "community's trust."
Looks like the details are still emerging. Its a tragedy anyway you put it.
 

NT1440

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This is a tragic accident. The fault for this incident is, in my opinion, entirely with the girls parents/ family who created a situation in their house which neccesitated police action. Sadly her families actions caused her untimely death.
Because no one ever searches the wrong house. :rolleyes:
 

Ttownbeast

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I said my piece on this topic, but I have a very funny feeling this one is going to turn south and a lot of us are going to suffer for it here in the forums though an interesting topic this will probably find itself better off in the wastelands.
 

AP_piano295

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This is a tragic accident. The fault for this incident is, in my opinion, entirely with the girls parents/ family who created a situation in their house which neccesitated police action. Sadly her families actions caused her untimely death.
Your right its the parents fault because they lived in the wrong neighborhood.

How do you live with yourself?

Edit: And NO a bullet (as in a small piece of metal moving at hundreds of miles per hour) caused her untimely death. And to be more precise a human being firing a weapon caused her untimely death.

If you leave your door unlocked and a murderer enters your house and kills your family is that murder on you because you failed to lock the door??
 

Simgar988

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I said my piece on this topic, but I have a very funny feeling this one is going to turn south and a lot of us are going to suffer for it here in the forums though an interesting topic this will probably find itself better off in the wastelands.
Why? Cuz it's too controversial for us?? In PRSI? Hmmm
 

Zombie Acorn

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How bout we wait till the investigation is over. If these parents were willingly keeping a murder suspect in their home then the blame is entirely on them. If the police busted the wrong house and shot a kid then its all on them.
 

tigres

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Attorney Jeffery Fieger has taken the case as of last night. Stated they had video evidence that the police actually shot before the house was entered.

Unfortunately, our local news is filled with these sad stories the first 10 minutes nightly; not to diminish this in any way. I avoid the local news mostly nowadays. :(
 

AP_piano295

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Probably because the investigation isn't over and a kid was shot. Things tend to get ugly in here, and a 7 year old is dead.
Wait for the "investigation" to be over is the oldest play in the book when it comes to cops screwing the pooch. They start a long internal investigation, nothing comes of it and then everyone forgets about the event.

If people keep talking about it and keep focus on it then maybe justice will be served.
 

iJon

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I'm sure we will find some people who will defend this just like in the last thread.
 

Rodimus Prime

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Wait for the "investigation" to be over is the oldest play in the book when it comes to cops screwing the pooch. They start a long internal investigation, nothing comes of it and then everyone forgets about the event.

If people keep talking about it and keep focus on it then maybe justice will be served.
I find the internal investigation I find is much more truthful than the mass media. The mass media jumps to conclusion and looks for controversy.

I also find that mass media does not report the out come if it is what we want it to be. They only report it if it would cause a mass out rage. They also will not report the complete truth. The media cares little for the truth but more to make the people out rage.

In this investigation I am wanting to know what the out come is. It could be during the struggle a weapon got accidentally discharged and the little girl was hit. I have a feeling the cop's who gun it came from feels really bad.

There are a lot of unanswered question here but I do not expect the media to report the entire truth. They will only report what pisses off the masses.
 

iJon

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I find the internal investigation I find is much more truthful than the mass media. The mass media jumps to conclusion and looks for controversy.

I also find that mass media does not report the out come if it is what we want it to be. They only report it if it would cause a mass out rage. They also will not report the complete truth. The media cares little for the truth but more to make the people out rage.

In this investigation I am wanting to know what the out come is. It could be during the struggle a weapon got accidentally discharged and the little girl was hit. I have a feeling the cop's who gun it came from feels really bad.

There are a lot of unanswered question here but I do not expect the media to report the entire truth. They will only report what pisses off the masses.
Luckily A&E was recording the whole event for their television program. According the the families lawyer their isn't much debate about what happened.

Now I'm sure the lawyer is going to steer all opinions in his desired direction but considering someone was shot and killed and it was videotaped I can only assume the police were at fault.

We shall see.
 

Rodimus Prime

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Find better media sources, not everybody does this.
the big players all do though. Hell the AP is not worth much any more as they have gone from basic facts to more messing with to swing favor one way or the other.


When the AP is going down in value in truthfulness then the mass media is pretty bad. The fact of the matter is the media stop caring about the truth a long time ago and now go for what ever gets them the move views and highest ratings.
 

hulugu

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the big players all do though. Hell the AP is not worth much any more as they have gone from basic facts to more messing with to swing favor one way or the other.
The AP story on this subject is roughly similar to the CNN story. Are you arguing that both are spun in a particular way?

Again, arguing about one or another media source doesn't prove that all media sources are problematic. You can make the argument, but without some order of study or proof, this is just your opinion.

EDIT: One thing that's interesting is how the Fox News story (served by MyFoxDetroit) uses only Assistant Chief Ralph Goodbee's news conference as a source and then refers back to the crime that caused the raid. The Detroit Free Press story has the widest variety of sources, referring to a local crime watch group, the parents, the lawyer, and Goodbee. They also reference the murder of Jarean Blake.

The Fox News story and the Detroit Free Press story also note that the "gun went off" during a struggle, but the Detroit Free Press story goes into more detail, including a description of the raid—apparently the 'flash-bang grenade' burned the girl before she was killed.

When the AP is going down in value in truthfulness then the mass media is pretty bad. The fact of the matter is the media stop caring about the truth a long time ago and now go for what ever gets them the move views and highest ratings.
I note that you're conflating two very different media genres, newspaper and wire journalism with television news. I would argue that both serve different needs and that television journalism is much more interested in ratings, while newspapers have to contend with subscription rates. Both are very different genres.