70 years ago today: the US Army reaches the Elbe

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  1. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    Good article. Which also leads to the subject of the Pacific War.

    It was still far from finished on V-E day.
     
  2. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    There we go, so russia's hand was forced into join the war to protect its interest.
     
  3. jeremy h macrumors 6502

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    Good article - I knew of this (in terms of Zhukov winning his spurs) but this frames it nicely in terms of that pact. If you're interested one book that is also interesting in terms of this period is the "Wages of Destruction" by Adam Tooze - it's an analysis of the German prewar and war economy and why certain decisions had to be made from a strategic economic standpoint.
     
  4. Bug-Creator macrumors 6502a

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    Ermmmmmm.....

    Those talks happened in 1940, operation Babarossa started in June 41, don't really see how that could have forced Stalin to sign a secret deal with Hitler in August 39 to invade and divide the countries left in between them....
     
  5. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    Thats not what were discussing, we were discussing Hitler drawing russia into the war by invading countries around russia.

    Thats what I'm discussing anyway.
     
  6. Bug-Creator macrumors 6502a

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    ... which started 1 week after he signed a deal with Stalin about who would get what parts of these countries......
     
  7. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    Yeah..... So germany went from negotiating with russia, to effectively forcing them into the war.... which is what I said.
     
  8. Bug-Creator macrumors 6502a

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    Which doesn't change that Stalin dragged himself into the war by invading the baltics, finnland and eastern poland.

    Thats all for now from me, if you still insist in rewriting history knock yourself out :rolleyes:
     
  9. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    Im not re-writing history, you clearly just don't understand ;)
     

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