8800 GT vs GTS, GTX and Ultra vs ATI Radeon 3870x2

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by kabunaru, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. kabunaru Guest

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    Could somebody explain in detail the difference between 8800 GT and GTS (G92 version), GTX and Ultra? Just how comparable are they to each other and does an 8800 GT match an Ultra in some situations?

    Also, how does an ATI Radeon 3870x2 compare against 8800 GT and Ultra? Isn't an ATI Radeon 3870x2 equal or better than an Ultra?
     
  2. davewolfs macrumors regular

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    Read this.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/04/best_cards_february_2008/

    I don't see why you would care since you don't any options other then the 8800 GT with the Mac.
     
  3. Matek macrumors 6502a

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    Detailed table with geforce differences can be found here, performance comparison here.

    The dual 3870 is better than the Ultra, yes.
     
  4. Brianna macrumors regular

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    One thing to consider is that some of the GTS cards have the same G92 GPU as the GT, and could conceivably be flashed to run in a New Mac Pro. The GTX, and ULTRA are G80's (older GPU's).

    March 11th the Nvidia 9800x2 comes out, and I'm pretty sure that will be the dominant card on the market. I've never been impressed with ATI because they never stay on top for more than two weeks. Nvidia always has them beat.
     
  5. kabunaru thread starter Guest

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    I just wanted to know how the GT compares to the other cards.
     
  6. vohdoun macrumors 65816

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    NVIDIA are having problems with it. Besides. The biggest problem is, its not really a new card (8800 the sequel). It's like the 7950GX2, two cards slapped together. Anybody that was a die hard gamer knows the card was a flop, and its looking to be a repeat. It had such poor poor driver support for these SLi cards that are slapped together.
     
  7. Volante macrumors regular

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    I think the next NVIDIA card Apple will add is the 9800GT, they tend to stick those models, ye?

    I read that the 9800x2 will give a 30% boost compared to the ultra.
     
  8. m1stake macrumors 68000

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    It's funny how ATI touts a victory in a few synthetic benchmarks and games, and forgets about the vast majority of the results. The Ultra will always perform like an ultra, and can do that no matter how high the AA is turned up. The ATI cards rely on crossfire, which is inherantly iffy because no two games scale quite the same way. In addition, ATI can't work with AA.

    You do want to skin the 9800GX2 most likely though. You should be able to find an ultra for a cheap price with the 9 series coming out... Or just be smart and wait 8 months for Nvidia to release an actual sequel with performance to match.
     
  9. barefeats macrumors 65816

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    There's also a comparison on Anandtech of the Radeon HD 3870 X2 with the various versions of the GeForce 8800 with and without SLI mode:
    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3209&p=9

    If ATI/AMD were to offer a Mac OS X compatible version of the 3870 X2, "peace will guide the planets and love will steer the stars."
     
  10. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Yes, but by the time we get it, it'll be midrange.
     
  11. davewolfs macrumors regular

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    I don't think Apple upgrades the video cards on the Mac Pro. So why bother discussing it.
     
  12. slackpacker macrumors 6502a

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    True so true.

    .... but if your going to use the Mac Pro as a windows box ONLY then you could use those cards. You will have to take out the nVidia (Windows) card because once you boot up into OS X with a second Apple compatible card in the MP the nVidia cards FAN will run at full tilt... quite annoying.

    Apple is usually 2 or 3 cards behind historically. But the 8800GT is quite good and its the current best bang for the buck when Running games like Crysis in Bootcamp.
     
  13. Techguy172 macrumors 68000

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    The Nvidias can beat the 3780 X2 the ATI is just two cards slapped together. But there not that powerful and very inefficient.
     
  14. vohdoun macrumors 65816

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    It's not, its two chips on one PCB. Just like the Voodoo3DFX days.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Techguy172 macrumors 68000

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    That's what I meant
     
  16. barefeats macrumors 65816

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    Why do you say "not that powerful and very inefficient"? I've heard from one card maker that putting two CPUs on one card is much better than SLI or Crossfire mode with two cards.

    BTW, I have a Radeon HD 3870 X2 and a GeForce 8800 GTX. I tried both on the Mac Pro 3.2GHz under Vista 64.

    Prey at 1920x1200 High Quality (8X aniso, dynamic shadows on):
    Radeon 3870 X2 (standard clocking) = 201 fps
    Geforce 8800 GTX (overclocked) = 166 fps
     
  17. dragonmoony macrumors newbie

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    can't we like ALL send emails to apple ? like... we want the god damn new high end graphic cards ?
    cuz.. as much as I like mac osx... I like gaming even more..

    so it's almost making me buy a pc card and stay on windows forever .. that sux..


    APPLE PLEASE ? IS IT SO DAMN HARD? ? ? ? ? ? XD :confused:


    we have to wait ALLONG time for a card to go mac-edition.. and until that happens, the card is like al old and stuff.. and THEN we pay like 2 times more ?
     
  18. MartinelliMinim macrumors newbie

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  19. dragonmoony macrumors newbie

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    then what the hell do you do when you work in mac os x ?:eek::confused:


    btw does the standard "powercable" for the 9800 work with mac pro ? :S PLEASE tell me so I could get one to ! :D
     
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    Yes. Can you think of a Mac that is more expandable?
     
  22. Bubba Satori Suspended

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    Nope. And that's why this is so frustrating with so few video card choices blessed by Apple. The Mac Pro is a fantastic workstation and I'll be getting one in May. But Apple seems hell bent on restricting our choices in video cards.
     
  23. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    What OS X card do you have? How many places on the motherboard are there to plug in external power cables for PCIe cards? I know the 9800 GX2 needs two cables, so if you have the 8800 GT for OS X, there would be three...
     
  24. SuperGrobi macrumors member

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    Can you post your experience with the 9800GX2 in the Mac Pro? How does your power-setup look like and how does the card behave in Mac OS (Fans etc.)??? Please let us know! ... and thanks in advance.
     

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