I know this thread will get lots of nasty replies, but I guess it's just the nature of the leftists. I also hate to use quotes from Rush Limbaugh, since I know that his views and ideas are a bit extreme, and shrewd at times, but I felt they were no shrewder than comments made in a "Remembering 9/11" thread here. The post that caught my attention was this: I don't mean to offend any one person, mainly because the views expressed in this post, are also the views of many other people here. Be warned, if you are offended by the truth, I suggest you not read on. As you all know, these political forums can get very nasty. The war on terror, like any war the US has fought since WWII, is not going to be over with any time soon. If you look at World War II, you will see that we still have troops in Europe, and in Japan. We are still funneling money into them, and how many years has it been since WWII ended? The war on terror will cost the US $166 billion for this year and next year. Now, before you think "where will all this money come from", remember that we're spending $400 billion on a prescription drug plan that nobody wants. Now why do we oppose this war on terror, and the war in Iraq, which is a war to rid this world of a great evil, and make the world a safer place for innocent people, yet we don't oppose a prescription drug plan that really helps nobody at all, yet costs us more? Compared to the Marshall Plan, the cost of the war in Iraq and operations in Afghanistan is almost nothing. It will cost us $166 billion for this year and next. That's almost nothing compared to the billions we spent, and are still spending, on the Marshall plan. And people complain about $166 billion for a humanitarian effort directed towards the people of Iraq. How about over $6 trillion spent on the Great Society and the War on Poverty? They were failures, and we're still pouring money into them, yet still nobody complains. The war in Vietnam amounted to 12% of our nation's economy. Today, what we spend on all military operations, including the $166 billion in Iraq, is 0.5% of the economy. As for Bush's exit strategy for Iraq, tell me, when are we going to get out of Germany? When are we going to get out of Japan? When are we going to stop spending money? We're still there, and we're still putting money into them. Haiti, Bosnia? Still there. The war on terror and the war in Iraq is not going to bankrupt our country. We are doing this planet a favor, taking out a terrible dictator, freeing the people of Iraq, and trying to establish a democratic outpost in a backwards part of the world. And you're saying that it costs too much to do this? You're saying that the lives of all the innocent Iraqi's who died, or would've died under saddam are not worth it? You're saying that the lives we are saving by hunting down terrorists is not worth it? As for patriotism. Patriotism is not the act of questioning your country about every thing it does. TRUE and REAL patriotism, as defined by Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary is: "Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one's country; the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which inspires one to serve one's country." A true patriot stands for his country, and is willing to sacrifice for it. Whether it's sacrificing time to go through security at an airport, or little pleasures and amenities in our lives, we can all be patriotic, but questioning all of the governments motives for the sake of politics isn't exactly patriotic. There's an article that I'd like you to read here. In it is this line: "We vowed in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks never to forget. But those will prove to be empty words if we forget where we must continue to stand." Do you not remember what happened that day? Did we not promise to bring those responsible to justice? Are we going to let somebody kill 3000 innocent Americans, and then let them walk free 2 years later? You do have to make a moral decision about terrorists and people like bin laden at some point in your life. You have to decide if they are good or evil, not anywhere in between. You can't be afraid to make that decision, but many people are, because once they make a decision, and say he's evil, they have to do something about it, and that's what they're afraid to do. They are afraid of making moral decisions, because they don't want to have to do anything about it. They're afraid of being patriotic. They don't want to have to spend money, they don't want to have to take the war to the land of the enemy. America is, as Ronald Reagan said, the last, best hope of mankind because our resolve and courage are the best guarantors for freedom. There's no need for 'Victory Gardens' for this war, but Americans must cultivate strength within themselves. Whether you like it or not, President Bush has taken this war to the enemy. He is making this world a better place, and the price tag is NOT that high. We will not destroy America with our war on terror. We will not make our country bankrupt. Instead, we will remember what happened on September 11th, and we will remember where we stood that day, and we will continue to fight to bring those responsible to justice. I may be a bit extreme in quoting Rush Limbaugh about leftists, but his crudeness is as bad as yours: "You know, this is just - you people are just sourpusses, sour asses who cannot handle the fact that nobody buys your gark anymore. Nobody cares to listen to your rhetoric and nobody is influenced by it, and you people are not in the majority and you can't live with it so you've got to tear down everything decent about traditions and institutions in this country in order to get your power back." And yet another Limbaugh quote, that pretty much sums up leftist views on all of this: "And yet we've got a sheer, uncontrolled panic coming from these pantywaists on the left who haven't the slightest idea of what the result of the implementation of their policies would actually be. They cannot, believe me, my friends, be trusted to run this country. They cannot tell the truth; they cannot anywhere near (the truth). These expenditures are nowhere near historical highs. Nowhere near. Marshall Plan, Vietnam, you name it, nowhere near historical highs. We're not breaking the bank. We're not busting the budget. We don't need to repeal the tax cut. We need Democrats to shut the hell up and let some people who know how to fix the problems that we face do it!" While president Bush has many domestic issues to take care of, I trust him in office more than howard dean, al gore, and any other democrat, who will follow after clinton, and leave our country wide open to terrorist attacks. President Bush has exposed the truth to us. They claim for there to be more terrorists in Iraq now, so why not go hunt them down? Are we going to let them breed, and come and kill us? How do we even know that those terrorists weren't there to begin with, and that our war just uncovered them? By bringing these people out of their caves, we can rid the world of a great evil, and make it a better place for everybody. And if you live in the United States of America, George W. Bush is YOUR president, like it or not. oh yeah, and read the last line of my sig.