A National Disgrace

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  1. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    It's been more than sixty years since Emmett Till, a 14-yr old African-American boy, was brutally murdered in Mississippi, allegedly for having whistled at a white woman. The two men believed to have committed this crime were acquitted by an all-white Jury - but later admitted in a magazine article that they had killed Till.

    Till's murder (and the subsequent acquittal of his murderers) shocked the nation, and undoubtedly contributed to the impetus towards Civil Rights legislation.

    Till's murder is commemorated with several marker signs, including one placed near where his mutilated body was found. Here is a picture of it, taken recently:

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    The bullet holes in the sign are of various calibres, and from different angles, suggesting that the sign has been vandalised on multiple occasions. The sign itself has been replaced several times in the past going back to at least 1984. No one has ever been arrested or convicted in connection with these incidents.

    I love this country. I sincerely believe that the vast majority of Americans are decent, kind, generous, and moral people, committed to the principles of equality and opportunity for all. But I find it deeply disturbing that there are still significant numbers of people who hold social and racial views that would motivate them to commit this sort of act.

    This is not just simple vandalism. The fact that the people responsible used firearms, in conjunction with much of the political rhetoric surrounding them as instruments of intimidation and rebellion against lawful authority, is symptomatic of a deep sickness within some sections of American society.

    The men who murdered Emmett Till were no different from the savages of ISIL in their brutality and barbarity. The fact that they walked free is an indictment of the flaws in our Justice system. The fact that some people in our society haven't learned their lesson; and where innocent and unarmed young black men continue to be killed with impunity, ought to be a wake-up call to us all.

    There are some among us who claim that Black Lives Matter is unnecessary, that racism, violence, and intimidation against people of color is a thing of the past.

    The state of this sign says otherwise.
     
  2. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Not much to add, other than there are still barbarians among us.

    And it will take a many, many lifetimes before that changes.
     
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    And many those who would hold such despicable views would not shoot that sign or disrespect anyone in public.

    The thugs who murdered Emmett Till are indeed no different than those of ISIL. No argument here. No question.

    The reason Emmett was murdered (whistling at a white woman) is as crude as it gets. You might have wanted to mention that, these days people shoot one another for shoplifting and other real crimes.

    But are any black people killed today because they whistled at white women?

    I imagine there is still overt racial hatred, especially in some areas. That's not acceptable. Let people have private lives but they should grow up when dealing with others in public.

    And since it's about hatred at the core, let's look at other facets since there is no one way street: How about black people who hate on whites that whistle at black people or date them or make children with them? (People are people, plenty of blacks won't date non-blacks, plenty of whites won't date non-whites, plenty of blacks date whites, plenty of whites date blacks, plenty of browns date whites and blacks and so on and so forth and vice-versa... )



    What does it take for society to grow up and accept human beings of all colors and hues? It's okay to date whomever (consenting, adult, we know). There is no problem, nor should there be unless it's our imagination creating it. There is no "cultural genocide" going on, outside of rather active-but-insipid imaginations. There's enough hate, from all colors, when is enough enough?!!!
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    So there's no easier way? Easier isn't always better...

    But look at how far humans have properly progressed over the last 50 years - quite a lot considering that's only a partial span of one lifetime.

    Yeah, there's still a lot of vulgarity and cruelty. There's also been real improvement (being able to marry, children being accorded the same rights as any other child born in the US.) There IS a long way to go, let's not trivialize the sad truth either.
     
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    When I saw the thread topic, I thought it was going to be a comment on iMacs missing from the new product announcements by Apple today. :D And yes, it was a low down dirty shame!
     
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    Trayvon Martin was killed for wearing a hoodie and buying Skittles - and being a black teenager in the wrong neighborhood. And there were significant numbers of people in this country who celebrated his killer as some sort of gun-rights icon.

    It's not the same thing, obviously. But it ought to serve as a reminder that there are still a lot of people who not only hold racist views, but are willing to back them up with firearms.
     
  6. DrewDaHilp1 macrumors 6502a

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    Not quite. Good job with imagination though.
     
  7. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I think he got it about right.
     
  8. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    yes we expect that from you because there is no such thing as racism with white people.
     
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    AND pouncing on a hispanic moron who shot him while Trayvon was hitting him as he straddled him. two morons met that night and one lived.
     
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    A jury of the shooters peers say different.
     
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    thanks to liberals racism will never end, just look at Berkeley........
     
  12. DrewDaHilp1 macrumors 6502a

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    Are you posting for Bent now like JK does for Renz? You forgot the part where JK clearly marks where Renz part starts.
     
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    Yes, there are still lots of racists in this country but the number of racists willing to use firearms to back up their views is relatively small. Case in point, no one has tried to assassinate our president.
     
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    The jury ruled that Zimmerman was not guilty of murder. They weren't deciding on whether he was guilty of stalking Trayvon because he was a black teenager in the wrong neighborhood.
     
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    It is Florida where you can have a shooting range in your front yard in the city with houses all around.
     
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    'Merica!
     
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    is it a crime to follow people in your own neighborhood when you are the neighborhood watch?
     
  18. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    Looks like it is a sign in a very rural area, get some good ol boys together and they will shoot signs, that’s what they do. I question if the people who shot the sign even knew what the sign said.

    An example would be in a Pennsylvania State Game Land I hunt. For many years, there was an old Chevy pickup truck on the path into the woods. That truck barely had any metal structure left holding it together there were so many bullet holes in it. Should I assume the MANY perpetrators all drove Fords? To assume it is a hate or gun situation in your societal picture would be a society you do not fully understand.
     
  19. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    There was no neighborhood watch but in that idiots mind.
     
  20. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    They probably couldn't read it.
     
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    source other than your feelings.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/25/nation/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-neighborhood-watch-20130625
     
  22. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    perhaps you should consider reading the article
     
  24. steve knight, Oct 27, 2016
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    well I read it and it said they were thinking of doing it. so far I have not seen there was actually one. it was a fact he did not follow the rules he was told about.
    hard to tell but it just seems like it was done cause he wanted to do it and not official or anything.
    Zimmerman was in charge of recruiting block captains for a neighborhood watch program and, after having been asked, was also part of a group to enforce parking rules in his community.

    The president of the homeowners association for the community where the shooting took place testified that he didn't think a neighborhood watch program was needed and that Zimmerman was in charge of the community's program from the very beginning.

    Donald O'Brien stressed that the homeowners association had nothing to do with the neighborhood watch program but that he did attend a meeting to start it. Residents were told to "stay away" from suspicious people and call police, O'Brien said.

    He said he once text messaged Zimmerman with praises for a group of workers who followed a burglar. Their actions led to the arrest of a young black man, who was charged with burglaries in the neighborhood, O'Brien said.
     

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