Abortion clinic bombers: terrorists or not?

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  1. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    People who bomb legal medical facilities for a political cause with the intent to harm others. Sarah Palin doesn't think they're terrorists.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hu1NeI4M1k

    Agree with her statement? If so, why?
     
  2. odinsride macrumors 65816

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    Just when I thought she couldn't make my jaw drop anymore...
     
  3. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    In (slight) fairness... this version of it seems to be slightly better, as she explains her point more fully:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qty8kuS7Vo&feature=related

    As for my thoughts... I don't see how this is a reasonable definition of the term "terrorist," historically, practically, or in any other way. By this definition it would appear that the act of destroying the World Trade Center itself was not an act of terrorism, which, I think, even from their perspective would be a ludicrous statement.
     
  4. iShater macrumors 604

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    I would say yes, even though I am against abortion clinics.

    Edit: But these videos are confusing. I don't see how this reflects her in a negative light.
     
  5. imac/cheese macrumors 6502a

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    Even though I disagree with abortion, those who bomb the clinics are terrorists.
     
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    Presumably it is an act of terrorism if the aim is to cause terror. It's not exactly complicated. Bombing an abortion clinic is designed to cause terror. Bombing the WTC likewise. QED.

    Palin should not be expressing any equivocation.
     
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    I wonder for what reason she brought up Bill Ayers. Was the previous question about him?
     
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    Is it cause she just doesn't know how to give a straight answer? :D
     
  10. redwarrior macrumors 603

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    Yes, I agree with Palin. They are not domestic terrorists, just murderers or attempted murderers, and should prosecuted as such.
     
  11. Blue Velvet thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    She says she doesn't know. What message does that send?
     
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    However, their MO is not necessarily to kill, but to cause a fear of being caught in a blast. Ergo, terrorism. It is perfectly clear.
     
  13. Blue Velvet thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    Was Timothy McVeigh a domestic terrorist?
     
  14. jplan2008 macrumors regular

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    Yes.
    http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/1023

    Brian Williams: Back to the notion of terrorists and terrorism, this word has come up in relation to Mr. Ayers -- hanging out with terrorist – domestic terrorists. It is said that it gives it a vaguely post uh 9-11 hint, using that word, that we don’t normally associate with domestic crimes. Are we changing the definition? Are the people who set fire to American cities during the ‘60’s terrorists, under this definition? Is an abortion clinic bomber a terrorist under the definition?
     
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    I managed about ten seconds of that video before I had to turn it for the sake of my sanity. Gov. Palin has the unique ability to make my blood boil as soon as she opens her mouth and attempts to mangle her way through the English language.

    Yes, people who bomb, or threaten to bomb, abortion clinics are terrorists.
     
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    When is that video from? when was that interview?...
     
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    That's what I thought. I of course haven't seen the whole interview but was curious to see if there were a new one seeing this didn't pop up sooner...
     
  20. Apple Ink macrumors 68000

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    Next Up: Bombing Russia and Iran is NOT Terrorism! Its DIPLOMACY.... wow
     
  21. jplan2008 macrumors regular

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    NBC finally got an interview with Palin. It was done a few days ago -- it was partly with her alone on a bench outside, and partly joint inside. NBC is showing it in pieces on their nightly news.
     
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    Shock and Awe is not terrorism, it's just showing that we care.
     
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    If you lose, you're a terrorist. If you win, you're a "freedom fighter."

    cf. The Boston Tea Party, Afghan war against Soviet Union, etc., etc.
     
  24. Blue Velvet thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    Does this sound like the act of a terrorist?

    http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/1998/October/477crm.htm


    This is the FBI:

     
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    Psst. cf. Israel.
     

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