Abortion Provider Killed at Church -- "Pro-Life" Indeed -- Poll: Was It Justified?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by gibbz, May 31, 2009.

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Do You Think The Murder of Dr. Tiller Was Justified?

  1. Yes

    4 vote(s)
    2.4%
  2. No

    159 vote(s)
    95.8%
  3. Unsure

    3 vote(s)
    1.8%
  1. gibbz macrumors 68030

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    Edit: A poll has been added to gauge what the anonymous opinions are of the forum members in regard to Dr. Tiller's murder.

    How senseless! Also ironic that the perpetuator would likely classify himself as "pro-life."

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  2. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    nothing like proving killing is wrong by killing.
     
  3. bruinsrme macrumors 603

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    7 minutes and no one has touched this.

    Does the pro-life agenda include anything about after life after birth?
     
  4. gibbz thread starter macrumors 68030

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    It's not their concern after birth. Let the mother or taxpayers worry about it then.
     
  5. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    the sad part is it is not even about the babies anymore on either site. it is about having your beliefs proven right. abortion is just the vehicle to do it. the babies have been forgotten.
    myself why does everyone get involved it has nothing to do with them but only with the person involved with the abortion or lack of it. everyone has to into someone Else's personal business to prove they are right.
     
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    I don't think that's true of both sides in the argument. Anyone who thinks a woman makes a decision to abort easily is deluding themselves. It's an extremely painful decision to make, and one that always leaves emotional scars.

    Whilst I personally wish it never had to happen this is an imperfect world. My "beliefs" have absolutely no place being imposed into such a traumatic choice, and neither do anyone else's.

    Back on topic, events like this surprise nobody any more. Truly shameful, and hypocritical on a grand scale.
     
  8. yg17 macrumors G5

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    No. If the taxpayers take care of the child after birth, then it's socialism. The baby needs to go out and get a job and pay for his own healthcare, shelter and food like the rest of us!


    There is nothing pro-life about these people. They only care about the child while it's a fetus and don't give a damn once it's born. The appropriate terms are pro-choice and anti-choice.
     
  9. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    I am talking about the activists and the religious nuts. they don't really care about the babies anymore.
    the women involved in the act it's self are the only ones that should be concerned about the act it's self. it has nothing to do with the two top groups it is not their bodies or babies.

    I don't think they even care about that I think they only care about getting proven right. that their beliefs are true. the babies are just the vehicle to do it.
     
  10. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    Your grammar error of replacing what should be "himself" with "themselves" is very telling in this instance.

    You think everyone who calls themselves "pro-life" would have killed, excuse me, MURDERED this doctor? This is a senseless killing and whoever committed this crime is a complete jackass. Spare us the sweeping generalizations please.
     
  11. bruinsrme macrumors 603

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    I was reading this and I could feel my blood boiling. then I read the last sentence and all is good. :eek:
     
  12. yg17 macrumors G5

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    I bet half of these anti-abortion groups would be classified as terrorist organizations by the FBI and DHS if their leader had dark skin and a funny name.
     
  13. bruinsrme macrumors 603

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    Do you think everyone "pro-choice" would have an abortion?

    Has there ever been a case where a pro-choice person klilled a pro-life person?
     
  14. gibbz thread starter macrumors 68030

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    You read too much into things, I assure you. It is a simple mistake made in haste.

    Spare me the drama. I made no sweeping generalization. I said that the suspect would likely classify himself as "pro-life." By the way, this isn't the first attack on Dr. Tiller. Others were from self-proclaimed "pro-life" advocates. Given his history, I feel justified in my assertion.
     
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    This is straight up terrorism. If it turns out that this guy was associated with Operation Rescue, that organization needs to be treated like any organization with ties to terrorism.
     
  17. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    I guess this dude answered the question of how many people he would kill to save a life.

    It'll be two if he can hang himself to avoid a trial.
     
  18. yg17 macrumors G5

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    http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/may/31/tiller-shot-death-wichita-church/

    I wonder why he had that number....perhaps he was working with Operation Rescue and had to let them know the job was done. The article quotes a spokesperson of Operation Rescue denouncing the murder, however, the founder of Operation Rescue's statement is quite the opposite:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/31/randall-terry-operation-r_n_209531.html
    At this point, I consider Operation Rescue to be a terrorist organization and nothing more, and I sure hope they are treated as such by the FBI and DHS
     
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    Of course they are. Terrorism is a strategy of criminal violence to achieve political ends.




    Our most effective rhetoric and actions.
     
  20. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    I wonder if they'll take responsibility for the attack.
     
  21. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Osama Bin Laden Randall Terry has now released a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08C9O_4BbcA

    He is a disgusting, despicable piece of crap and I hope him and his organization are fully investigated
     
  22. gibbz thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Wow!! This guy is a piece of work. Not surprising that he uses such propaganda as "dead babies" and "mass murderer" and "pro-abortion."
     
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    Barney Frank said it best: "Conservatives believe life begins at conception and ends at birth."
     
  24. clevin macrumors G3

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    exactly.

    they care nothing after the birth. its shameful.
     
  25. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    They don't really care before the birth. they may say they do but they really are just out to get what they want what the believe in to be proven right. it is not about the aborted babies anymore.
     

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