About the FBI allegedly setting up Trump...

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  1. Rogifan macrumors Core

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    IF the FBI was trying to frame Trump or gin up some October surprise to take him down why did none of this come out before the election? The public didn’t know the Trump campaign was being investigated until after the election was over. If they really wanted to take him down why didn’t they announce the investigation or alleged October surprise before the election? If Comey and the FBI were in the tank for Clinton they had a funny way of showing in. Wasn’t it just a couple weeks before the election when Comey announced they were reopening the investigation into Clinton’s emails? How does any of that hurt Trump?

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  2. Apple OC macrumors 68040

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    The FBI had no choice in announcing the classified emails found on Weiner's computer... it was going to come out before the Election via the NYPD anyway.

    I believe McCabe actually tried to delay this info by sitting on it for several weeks.

    and just like Bernie had no chance to win the primary... they really thought they were going to award Hillary the WH.
     
  3. AlliFlowers Contributor

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    Trump has no clue who works for him or around him. He never heard of a vetting process, so he doesn't follow it. He's too ignorant to understand that even if there were a "plant" in his campaign team or administration, it's his own fault for not following a vetting process.
     
  4. Rogifan thread starter macrumors Core

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    Who is they? The FBI? How were they going to award Clinton the presidency? Also there are some reports that suggest a confidential informant inside the Trump campaign approached the FBI. Heck even this morning Rudy poured cold water on Trump’s tweet saying they don’t know for sure what happened.
     
  5. Apple OC macrumors 68040

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    wait until we see the pending OIG report to find out who all of "they" are... I do believe the OIG report will confirm Hillary should have never been allowed to run for President.

    The MSM is also part of "they"... the leaked emails confirm CNN fed Hillary debate questions.

    So, it's not just the FBI and the DOJ (Lynch) ... lots of people were part of "they"

    what "they" never factored into? ... was the Americans who actually vote, seeking the truth outside of the MSM fake news.
     
  6. Irishman macrumors 68030

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    So, feelings are all you have?
     
  7. TonyC28 macrumors 65816

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    This thread is going to be fun!

    My take, at least based on what we know so far, is that if this was a setup (and there is some evidence to support that it was) the reason would have been to cover up other things. One theory floating around is that "the source" is going to be very damaging to certain agencies and people. If there was a spy planted in the Trump campaign before July 31, 2016 then there is a serious problem.

    As far as Comey reopening the Hillary investigation right before the election, the theory goes that it was done to once and for all clear the air about Hillary so when she won everything would be over. If you really want to dive into this stuff you have to remember everything with the footnote in your mind: she was going to win. Nobody, including "they", ever thought she would lose. From New York Times article on Crossfire Hurricane:
    But underpinning both cases was one political calculation: that Mrs. Clinton would win and Mr. Trump would lose.

    A name we might start hearing a little more is Erik Prince. I know nothing of his credibility so take this next part however you want. He claims that the NYPD recovered damning information about HRC missing emails on Weiner's laptop and they wanted to go public with the news but were pressured by DOJ to back off. Allegedly the DOJ threatened to come down hard on them over the Eric Garner death.

    As far as news not coming out before the election, remember, when a lot of this stuff started getting crazy it was after CNN and Buzzfeed introduced us all to the dossier in early January 2017. Why hadn't we heard of it before then? Christopher Steele, if you believe his account that he provided in a UK court, was told by Fusion GPS in September 2016 to begin briefing certain reporters on the dossier findings. But, the deal was that they could not source it or him directly. It was to get them going in a direction. Did they get very far until the dossier itself came out in January? According to the New York Times Crossfire Hurricane article, he went to the media because he was frustrated by the FBI's slow response to information he gave to them in early July 2016. Important note, Christopher Steele went to the FBI before the Australians did with information about Papadopolous. Sometime in mid-late September 2016 Steele met with the FBI again and it was at that meeting that the FBI allegedly told him about a source they had on the inside of the Trump campaign. Pretty juicy stuff, right? Can we reasonably assume that by September 30, 2016 at least Christoper Steele and Glenn Simpson knew that there was an ongoing FBI investigation into the Trump campaign? Or is that a step too far and can we just say that they reasonably knew that the FBI had a source on the inside? Fusion GPS, the firm hired to do "opposition research" on Trump (which anyone with a brain knows it really means to dig up dirt and make him look bad), has a scoop that could potentially end his candidacy and they sit on it? Maybe they didn't want to burn a bridge to the FBI? Maybe there was just a source on the inside but no real investigation?

    I'm not sure I would say Comey was in the tank for anyone. I believe he was used by Clapper in January 2017 as a means of getting the dossier out. Maybe Comey just got caught up in all of this. Read that New York Times article and it will tell you a lot. If you read it with cynical eyes you can almost see it is a defense for a certain report that is coming out this month.
     
  8. Apple OC macrumors 68040

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    when the OIG report drops... feelings will be confirmed as fact.
     
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    Here's some context. Eric is Betsy DeVos' brother. He is also the one who started Blackwater Security, and was at that little meeting in the Seychelles. He is firmly in the Trump camp.
     
  11. TonyC28 macrumors 65816

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    Definitely a Trump guy, no doubt.
     
  12. Irishman macrumors 68030

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    So much anger and faith you have....
     
  13. appleisking macrumors 6502a

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    I read comeys book. I really don’t think he was in the tank for anyone. He did what he thought was right. As for the NYPD thing sounds like ******** to me. Thr NYPD would never go public with something like that assuming they were the ones who discovered those emails. They’re not the ones investigating Hillary after all. It doesn’t make sense. All they do in this case is turn over the emails to the FBI (not the doj which was not running the investigation) and that’s it. Whatever the fbi decides to do with those emails is their business NYPD doesn’t give a rip.
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    Your evidence to the bolded please?
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    The FBI doesn’t give two rips about trump. The only people who believe they’re against him are his rabid supporters who are too blinded by confirmation bias to see anything else.
     
  14. eatrains macrumors 6502

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    Just like with the Memo™?
     
  15. raqball macrumors 68000

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    I hear the forthcoming OIG report on Comey is going to be far worse for him, others and a few Obama admin officials than originally thought...

    I believe it's going to be very damning and open up a whole new can of worms. That's the risk the dems took when they started this farce --> boomerang and it appears to be what's about to happen..
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/30/politics/inspector-general-mccabe-weiner/index.html
     
  17. TonyC28 macrumors 65816

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    Was this it?

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...top-weeks-before-congress-was-informed-report
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    That's possible. Perhaps that was the person that Christopher Steele was told about. But, if that was the same person it seems unlikely that it would also be the same person whose identity they are trying to protect now.
     
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  19. Huntn macrumors P6

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    The FBI was doing their job. At first the FBI was supported unconditionally by GOP leadership with accolades.. Now the Trump lice are trying to turn this around. :(
     
  20. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    Exactly. The outrage is not that the FBI was investigating the Trump campaign. It’s that the Trump campaign had so many secretive contacts and interactions with foreign operatives that such an investigation was necessary.
     
  21. DearthnVader macrumors 6502a

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    Endless partisan investigations and inquires no matter who won the election. It's a shame that this is what it has come to in America.

    The FBI and the Justice Department shouldn't be used as a political tool, that is the stuff of tin pot dictatorships and puppet democracies.

    Trump nor Clinton should have never made it out of the primaries, we all just got left taking a large bite of a complete turd sandwich.

    Maybe something good will come of all this in 2020, maybe we'll get few honest candidates at the top of the ticket for each party that want to move the nation forward in a positive way, but that won't do us much good without a Congress willing to work together and compromise to solve problems, rather than browbeating each other to win elections with the same old issues that should have been resolved long ago.
     
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    The Deep State (or George Soros, depending who you ask). :rolleyes:
     
  23. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    Nice cotton candy fantasy. The FBI thought they were going to award Clinton the White House by having Comey announce the re-opening of the investigation?

    What was their next plan of action, tell the public they were investigating a certain Pizza Parlor?
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    Based on what information? Your hopes?
     
  24. raqball macrumors 68000

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    Nope...
     
  25. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    You've "heard" that the report is going to be worse for Comey and the Obama admin than originally thought. Are you going to divulge where you heard this information? Or is it a big secret...
     

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