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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Sayhey, Jan 3, 2006.
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Hip Hip Hooray! Lets hope he takes down a bunch of corrupt Republicans with him!
This is going to be the political story of 2006.
Let the rich, corrupt, republican dominoes fall.................
But look at the damage all these guys have done to our country, our reputation.
Wasnt Delay another draft dodger? if so lets hope he goes down. It just kills me how many Republicans in Power were draft dodgers, Bush,Cheney,Hastert,Libby,Rowe, not sure about Delay but the pattern seems to fit, most likely another dodger.
But outside of this forum, how many Americans would recognize the name "Abramoff"? Not enough, I would imagine, to make this story anything more than a two-minute armchair pundit diversion the evening "news" magazines.
I agree that all of the corruption and spying and patriot act stuff has been damaging to the worlds view of the U.S. The thing that scares me though is how scandals that involve Democrats(i.e. Blow-J***) can ruin the publics view of the party, yet people who squander money, break laws, spy on people, lie, and take us to war all the while smearing the names of reporters who release bad press about their motives on going to war, continue to have their party be viewed as the more moral of the two.
I can only hope the more draft dodging, money stealing, law breaking republicans that get caught and brought to the publics attention will start to make the neo-conservative, evangelical christian people in the bible belt and the mid-west come to their senses.
Did a look up and guess what? Abramoffs buddy Delay was you guess it! Another Draft Dodger. So ironic that all these chickenhawks who wouldnt serve during Vietnam found it so easy to get us into Iraq and send others to die for stupid policy. This is the tip of the iceberg but i dont think the fed should give him & republican croonies 45 days so they can all come up with the same story. (edit) on a side note why isnt fox promoting this story?
Haha because if the republicans fail fox will never have any B.S. positive news to report
Just reading the chapter about Abramoff in Franken's new book. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. OK, it could happen to Delay.
We report, you decide.
We don't report, you can't decide??????
Fair and balanced! How you doing tonight.
Doing pretty good, you?
On second thought, after watching the news, I'm doing great.
No flash floods here.
No one trapped in a mine.
No friends or family in Abramoff's circle.
What more can one ask?
Crappy day for me, starter went out in the truck and the new one doesnt want to fit. SNAFU! other then that im great.................but you do have that cold cold weather and i dont 65 degrees in S.C. today.
dems are on that list, too. i can't wait to see how the GOP exploits that.
True, but its really a republican problem. Ralph Reed,Hastert,Delay all tied to this guy. Lobbiest allways work with both sides making sure that special interest bill gets passed and we all get a little more shaft.
i don't think so. unless there are zero dems on his list (that's not the case, there are some), it's not a republican-only problem.
i'm guessing that much of the media on this will be dedicated non-proportionally to which dems are on the list. as if it's expected the (R)'s are, but surprising which (D)'s are. it'll be the dems who provide the "staring at the auto wreck" aspect to this story.
It's everybody's problem, and ultimately, it's the American people that are getting screwed.
Time to clean the house (no pun intended)
Dems are guilty too, but I'll bet he takes some neocons down with him. People are used to some corruption from politicians (which is kinda sad), but he's made a deal with the prosecutor, which means maybe he's probably rolled on some people. I have no doubt people like Rush, Hannity, and O'Reily will focus on the Dems. But I'm sure Al Franken will focus on the Repubs.
Anyone interested in reading Abramoff's plea agreement can do so at Talking Points Memo's web page. Great site for those who aren't already familiar with it.
Don't forget the corrupt Dems. They're out there, too.
I think the US would be better served if we had a random drawing for all three branches. Im sure anyone could do as well as Bush and most folks arent as corrupt as the millionaire club that run congress.
And a random hanging and quartering, too.
Speaking strictly for the part of me that gets intense satisfaction from irony, I think it would be hilarious if the prosecution allowed him to exlusively rat out the naughty Democrats, leaving his bestest buddies unscathed.
I would laugh my head off.
Anybody else here think that given the amount of money Abramoff is tied to on both sides of the aisle in Congress, that he's going to get whacked? Or, at the very least suddenly suffer some sort of mysterious, debilitating/lethal medical condition?