America to hand off Internet in under two months (yes we can!)

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  1. thewap macrumors demi-god

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    Quote from article;

    "The Department of Commerce is set to hand off the final vestiges of American control over the Internet to international authorities in less than two months, officials have confirmed.

    The department will finalize the transition effective Oct. 1, Assistant Secretary Lawrence Strickling wrote on Tuesday, barring what he called "any significant impediment."

    The move means the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, which is responsible for interpreting numerical addresses on the Web to a readable language, will move from U.S. control to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, a multistakeholder body based in Los Angeles that includes countries such as China and Russia.

    Critics of the move, most prominently Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, have pointed out the agency could be used by totalitarian governments to shut down the Web around the globe, either in whole or in part."

    Why is Obama and the democrats handing over control of the internet to a globalist corp?
    Think thats good, or is it (again) treason?

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/america-to-hand-off-internet-in-under-two-months/article/2599521
     
  2. jkcerda Suspended

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    just in time for the election to be rigged
     
  3. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    well if cruz is against it it should be good. well only see right wing versions of this even good old alex jones.
     
  4. cube macrumors G5

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    Why should the US control the Internet?

    Please don't answer "because we invented it".
     
  5. thewap thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    Because it is against the constitution to give over control of US assets to any foreign countries.

    Sovereign countries have a right to their own laws.

    Unless you are a globalist that approves international control over our freedom of speech?.
     
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  7. thewap thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    How we implement freedom of speech and OUR internet is OUR asset.

    We do not dictate to other countries their internet laws, US citizens will not accept other countries dictating what we can or cannot say on the internet in OUR country.
     
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    then why are we in control of it? :p
     
  9. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    How is it against the constitution?
     
  10. thewap thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    Because in America you can't transfer federal property without congress approval ...unless you are a dictator, and our freedom of speech is not subject to foreign dictates.

    "the feds are constitutionally prohibited from transferring federal property without approval from Congress. A coalition of 25 advocacy groups including Americans for Tax Reform, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and Heritage Action sent a letter to Congress making those points last week. A fourth, Americans for Limited Government, joined that letter and issued a separate statement calling for Congress to sue in the event the transfer moves forward."
     
  11. cube macrumors G5

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    Because you kept it since you started it, but it has not been a US-only inter network since an extremely long time.
     
  12. thewap thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    Each country have their own internet laws, what they block or not. We are a free country not subject to the dictates of China, or any other foreign nation...and not subject to any CORP.
     
  13. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    So there might be an issue if congress doesn't approve. Fair enough.
     
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    In a year or so the liberal progressives will squeal like stuck pigs, the internet will never be the same.



    #LockHerUp
     
  15. cube macrumors G5

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    That the mechanism is overseen by an international organization does not mean it will override your freedoms.

    On the other hand, it prevents the US from imposing its will on other countries.

    You should also ask permission to the UN before starting a war.
     
  16. thewap thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    I'm sorry...your comment is violating international internet rules treaty #10022545..your access to the internet has been terminated...have a good day ! :D
     
  17. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    Oopsies. Looks like Congress has already weighed in on this and has known about this transition for almost 20 years. Oh well, y'all keep tin foilin' away...

    Consistent with the clear policy expressed in bipartisan resolutions of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives (S.Con.Res.50 and H.Con.Res.127), which affirmed the United States support for the multistakeholder model of Internet governance, NTIA will not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an inter-governmental organization solution.

    From the inception of ICANN, the U.S. Government and Internet stakeholders envisioned that the U.S. role in the IANA functions would be temporary. The Commerce Department’s June 10, 1998 Statement of Policy stated that the U.S. Government “is committed to a transition that will allow the private sector to take leadership for DNS management.” ICANN as an organization has matured and taken steps in recent years to improve its accountability and transparency and its technical competence. At the same time, international support continues to grow for the multistakeholder model of Internet governance as evidenced by the continued success of the Internet Governance Forum and the resilient stewardship of the various Internet institutions.

    While stakeholders work through the ICANN-convened process to develop a transition proposal, NTIA’s current role will remain unchanged. The current IANA functions contract expires September 30, 2015.​
     
  18. pdqgp macrumors 68020

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    As long as no one restricts access to porn in the US, the world will be fine.
     
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    Numerous countries all contribute to its construction and maintenance.

    Before the internet was expanded on globally, what preceded it was a US-centric system for more specialized purposes.
     
  20. thewap thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    oopps looks like your link is outdated by two years - here is the update -
    https://www.ntia.doc.gov/blog/2016/update-iana-transition

    Tin foil away !
     
  21. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    What's your point? Your link refers three times to the March 2014 announcement I quoted. Your link doesn't refute or change any of what I quoted. Privatization. Approved by Congress. Has been the plan for almost 20 years.

    From your link:

    We announced on June 9 that the transition proposal developed by the Internet multistakeholder community meets the criteria we outlined in March 2014 when we declared our intent to transition NTIA’s stewardship role related to the DNS.

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    For the last 18 years, the United States has been working with the global Internet multistakeholder community to establish a stable and secure multistakeholder model of Internet governance that ensures that the private sector, not governments, takes the lead in setting the future direction of the Internet’s domain name system. To help achieve this goal, NTIA in 1998 partnered with ICANN, a California-based nonprofit, to transition technical DNS coordination and management functions to the private sector. NTIA’s current stewardship role was intended to be temporary.

    In March 2014, NTIA initiated the final step in the privatization of the DNS by asking ICANN to convene Internet stakeholders to develop a plan to transition NTIA’s stewardship role for the DNS to the Internet multistakeholder community.​
     
  22. thewap thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    The point is that they are letting control of the internet transition to the private sector - CORP that is controlled by international entities.
     
  23. cube macrumors G5

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    DNS, SSL are already privatized. Cash cows.
     
  24. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    As was planned 18 years ago. And approved by Congress. With transition formally announced over 2 years ago. So again, your point is?
     
  25. thewap, Aug 20, 2016
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    This transition has not been approved and voted on by congress and will probably be challenged in court. I guess sovereign control over how the internet is applied in the USA is important to our freedom on the internet. Your point?

    "Opponents similarly made the case that Congress has passed legislation to prohibit the federal government from using tax dollars to allow the transition".

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lawmakers-to-obama-dont-globalize-the-internet/article/2594645
     

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