American Idol's Simon Votes Thumbs Down On iPod


24C

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Another 'celebrity' with a mouth

So what! Simon is OK as a potential celebrity demoniser with "no heart", but after seeing him drive on Top Gear and talk to his "missus", anything outside his career envelope is blatantly too challenging intellectually, hence his comments in this 'article'.
 

munkle

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I don't get the point the article is trying to make.

Basically Cowell's comments were against record companies pandering to 16-25 year olds, which he calls the iPod generation - nothing to do with the iPod itself...but I guess that doesn't make for such a great headline :rolleyes:

He does say he finds the iPod too 'technical' (would hate to see try to get to grips with a Sony player!) but freely admits that he is a complete technophobe. It's not really a jibe against the iPod but rather technology, which he doesn't feel comfortable with.

I know Mac360 frequently gets bashed here and I'm not trying to join in on the action but just think this article was a bit crap and pointless.

Link to original article here.
 

Lacero

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Cowells iPods are too technical comment and an entire article is written about it. Seems pretty vacuous.
 

muire

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This of course, is after he bought himself a pink mini and his 17 year old girlfriend an iPod Photo for xmas. :rolleyes:
 

Blue Velvet

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Have we poor sufferers in the UK got rid of him yet?

You guys across the pond are welcome to keep him...
 

macnulty

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Misleading title, he's against technology in general not the iPod in particular. He does however make 2 good points: email & chat does become a substitute for real comunication, ie person to person or even a well thought out letter. The other is record company pandering to 16 to 25 year olds and as one promoter put to me, record companies are only interested in the "next big thing." And when they find it get out of the way, 'cause that's all you goona see.
 

PlaceofDis

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Blue Velvet said:
Have we poor sufferers in the UK got rid of him yet?

You guys across the pond are welcome to keep him...
no really we cant take him from you!! you might miss him too much ;)
 

Yvan Z

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This is possibly one of the most useless reports on Mac360 I have ever seen, and considering I'm talking about Mac360, thats really saying something.

I'm seriously considering getting PithHelmet to block EVERYTHING related to Mac360.com, so I don't have to read their trash.
 

jchen

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Read the whole Guardian article...

The article is pretty much spot on about Cowell. I read the Guardian article, too. Same thing. He's a technophobe for sure, which was obvious.

I've worked for people like Cowell. He likes fast cars, fast women, and money. And himself. Nothing else is important.

The man "does not have an iPod" because "they're too technical?" Same with laptop and email, though I tend to agree that they take something away from "personal" communication. Like the cell phone, a letter, or email are still viable forms of communication.

I wonder what Cowell would say about the so-called "communication" of forums/bulletin boards? There are few technophobes here, mostly critics, so maybe he'd find some of his own kind.

Which brings up another point... we have a lot of critics here who often drown out the message by attacking the messenger. :confused:
 

brentonbrenton

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maybe simon cowell is so uncomfortable and new to technology that he was infact testing a stupid iriver; and happened to think it was part of the ipod range, hence the 'i' beginning!

maybe start the review again with an IPOD and he'd be, oh my this will change the way we listen to music.

sounds like part of irivers new war on the ipod, which was posted about a few days ago.
 

Sun Baked

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Lacero said:
Cowells iPods are too technical comment and an entire article is written about it. Seems pretty vacuous.
He's right, anything that would confuse Paris Hilton is way too technical for him.

But this probably wouldn't confuse her, so Simon is telling us quite a bit about himself. ;)
 

mfeldman

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Funny, I think the same way...

Yvan Z said:
This is possibly one of the most useless reports on xxxxxx I have ever seen, and considering I'm talking about xxxxxx, thats really saying something.

I'm seriously considering getting PithHelmet to block EVERYTHING related to xxxxxx, so I don't have to read their trash.
One man's trash is another man's trash talk, I guess. Isn't it funny how people keep clicking, and clicking, and clicking? But can't add much to the party afterwards. <sigh>

Actually, it was an interesting piece, though not much on the Mac side, since Simon is obviously not into technology. The whole point of the opinion piece appears to be that Simon missed what's happening to music for those in the 30s and 40s.

While teenagers and 20-somethings have adopted the iPod, chances are good it was adopted by those in their 30s, 40s, and 50s (lots of Mac users in there; check your driver's license for the date nearest you) first. Yes, first.

I'm in my 6th decade and have purchased more music in the past three years than the previous 20+ years. More than half that from iTunes Music Store. Players? Except for the shuffle and iPod U2 Edition, I've had them all. My kids get the hand-me-downs.

So, the lovely Miss Patricks is right on. Simon doesn't fully understand the revolution in music that's happening right in front of him. All because he can't handle the technology.

Sad.

Marty Feldman
"I'm going to Hollywood"
 

tpatricks

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And the point is?

munkle said:
Basically Cowell's comments were against record companies pandering to 16-25 year olds, which he calls the iPod generation - nothing to do with the iPod itself...but I guess that doesn't make for such a great headline :rolleyes:

He does say he finds the iPod too 'technical' (would hate to see try to get to grips with a Sony player!) but freely admits that he is a complete technophobe. It's not really a jibe against the iPod but rather technology, which he doesn't feel comfortable with...
Pardon me, but I'm amazed at a number of things. Simon's apparent fear of technology is one. And he totally misses what the iPod is doing for music and those of us not anywhere near the 16-25 year old generation (some of my kids are older than that, the others got their iPods from ME!). I'm not surprised at the vacuous criticism here, that's to be expected. Finally, I can only imagine what Simon would think of this form of "communication."

As I wandered through 300 articles in NewsFire early this morning, I came across the Guardian article and thought it would make a nice extra commentary for the day. We already had a piece running, but Thursday's are a slow-hit day. 20-minutes later, Wooosh. More hits on that dribble than any other all year. Remarkable.
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the_mole1314

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Next week on Mac360:

The Amish don't use iPod since they use electricity and they are too complicated. Napster soon goes after the Amish as a market for Napster-To-Go-In-Buggies. As the CEO reports "Apple is ignoring another critical market."
 

dotdotdot

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pic is photoshopped there, unless simon has a white outline around his body which is weird :p
 

Little Endian

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I remember thrashing most of the content of Mac 360 when they first started popping up on a regular basis at Macbytes.com I got flamed by some people for being to critical. However I think most people now know that most of the content from Mac 360 is junk. If anything it is more commentary and opinion than real news or analysis. Also as mentioned earlier what do you expect from someone who shares the same name as a porn star? and has her glittery tinsel wigged self plastered on every page of the website.
 

redAPPLE

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macnulty said:
Misleading title, he's against technology in general not the iPod in particular. He does however make 2 good points: email & chat does become a substitute for real comunication, ie person to person or even a well thought out letter. The other is record company pandering to 16 to 25 year olds and as one promoter put to me, record companies are only interested in the "next big thing." And when they find it get out of the way, 'cause that's all you goona see.
well we could go on and on here. walking is better than driving a car, cooking your own food is better than eating out etc.

one cannot just generalize something now a days. of course real communication is better, but if my dad is let us say, a soldier and is stationed in germany, email and im is the best way to contact him. and that is not bad.
 

munkle

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tpatricks said:
Pardon me, but I'm amazed at a number of things. Simon's apparent fear of technology is one. And he totally misses what the iPod is doing for music and those of us not anywhere near the 16-25 year old generation (some of my kids are older than that, the others got their iPods from ME!). I'm not surprised at the vacuous criticism here, that's to be expected. Finally, I can only imagine what Simon would think of this form of "communication."
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My point is that you misinterpreted the original interview/article and that your article is tenuously linked and bland.

You say say Cowell misses what the iPod is doing for music, could this be because he was trying to make a completely independent point and was not talking specifically about the iPod or iTunes? He was making a point that there is a large market out there, which isn't being catered for. You jumped on a sentence, took it out of context and missed the point. He's not saying that there are no iPod users over 25, that there isn't a market for digital music or that the iPod is a bad device (whoops, there goes your article!) just that there is a market which isn't being tapped. And yes, he's right.

And to come on this forum and start attacking the vacuous posters is a bit of cheek, and how ironic that 'vacuous' was the word used to describe your article. I know which interpretation I'm siding with.
 

MCCFR

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Truly stunning…

So the man who, perhaps more than any A&R guy in the recent history of the British record industry, has done more to create homogeneous manuufactured pop music is now critical that the same industry seems over-obsessed with 16-25 year olds. Nothing to do with the fact that he's possibly trying to groom an act that doesn't fall into that demographic.

Between Cowell and the other Simon (Fuller, of Spice Girls/S Club fame), it's hard to know which one I dislike more - creatively bankrupt, they have between them done more damage to the British music industry than anyone for a generation.

The sooner the loathsome preening, self-obsessed Cowell retires into obscurity the better.

But that's just one man's opinion…
 

aarond12

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Mac360.com

Yvan Z said:
This is possibly one of the most useless reports on Mac360 I have ever seen, and considering I'm talking about Mac360, that's really saying something.

I'm seriously considering getting PithHelmet to block EVERYTHING related to Mac360.com, so I don't have to read their trash.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to think that site is lacking. Can we create a tag (like the [HUMOR] tags for instance) that says "Mac360.com" so I don't bother to click on it?

-Aaron-
 

jchen

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What are best Mac sites?

The point, often missed between the diatribes of 'kill Bill the messenger' is infamous Simon Cowell is NOT an iPod user or a PC user, obviously not a Mac user, doesn't even do email. Yeet, he pokes at the recording industry for cuddling up with the 16-25 yr old crowd while ignoring the 30 to 40-somethings. Meanwhile, as Miss Tera pointed out, Apple goes after that 30/40 market, too. The success speaks for itself, something Simon seems to not understand, or assumes iPods are only for teenieboppers.

FWIW, I would love to see some examples of great Mac journalism (not found on Mac360, but I don't visit the site for "journalism") as envied by the local crowd here. What's worthy reading to you? What sets your hair on fire? BillPalmer.net? Well, maybe that's not a good example. :)

I'd like to know what Mac sites others enjoy reading; sites, writers, content that's oh so worthy of commentary. MacCentral/Macworld? I'd exclude the news sites like MacMinute, et al, as they repeat news, don't do reviews, have little commentary. Since it's apparent that many Mac users read the darling Miss Tera anyway, what else is spongeworthy reading?

Thanks... joey
 

munkle

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jchen said:
I'd like to know what Mac sites others enjoy reading; sites, writers, content that's oh so worthy of commentary. MacCentral/Macworld? I'd exclude the news sites like MacMinute, et al, as they repeat news, don't do reviews, have little commentary. Since it's apparent that many Mac users read the darling Miss Tera anyway, what else is spongeworthy reading?

Thanks... joey
I reckon the best Mac writer out there is John Gruber, check him out at Daring Fireball. Unfortunately he doesn't update his site that frequently but quality is better than quantity ;)

For quantity check out MacSurfer.

Other than that you can't beat the MR forums, even if we are a bit vacuous! :p