Amish man challenges photo ID requirement to buy firearms on religious grounds

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    https://www.rt.com/usa/319884-amish-firearm-photo-religious/
    might be time to turn Amish

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  2. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    so now we have religious freedom verses the second amendment.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...o-id-in-gun-rights-religious-freedom-lawsuit/

     
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  5. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I hate beards, plus I have to wait & see if he wins.
     
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    nah, I would be a more modern Amish :p
     
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    It's not religious freedom vs the 2nd amendment.

    It's religious freedom and the 2nd amendment vs control freaks.
     
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    I am in.

    No beard and rumspringa all year round. :D
     
  10. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I was going to side with firearms over religious freedom. A photo ID violating his religious beliefs is an absurd level to take any religion. And rules are rules. If it means so much to you to adhere to such a strict religion, then you miss out on a lot more things than just firearms. At first I thought that the Amish man made his choice: religion over all other things. And that would include firearms.

    But on second thought, I've decided that the government should be able to accommodate this choice by confirming his ID with other means. Surely some smart person can figure out how to get a gun in his hands despite him lacking that photo.
     
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    time to start a "Modern Amish" sect. beards are optional, and you can work with technology as much as you want, photo I.D's are prohibited :D
     
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    EXACTLY, good for the goose/good for the gander.
     
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    Since the religion of the Amish people appears to be something called Anabaptist which is a derivation of Christianity. I would challenge this guy to point out where exactly in the Bible is this reference that forbids him "from knowingly and willingly having his photograph taken and stored.”

    Beware of false prophets!
     
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    Haven't we given this bass ackwards religion enough special privileges already? Either let him buy a musket or tough ****, IMO.
     
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    Yeah, **** freedom of religion. It's not like the US was founded upon it ... wait ... :eek:
     
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    It is interesting how they pick and choose what modern convenience they'll tolerate. It seems really arbitrary.

    But the important thing is there's an American without a gun. So people, let's focus on our priorities.
     
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    I'm calling BS on "his religious beliefs prevent him from being photographed." The hundreds (thousands) of photos of Amish folks on the Internet discredits that claim all ready.:confused:

    One more thing, I thought the Amish were a peaceful folk to the point of pacifism. He must be one of those fake Harrison Ford Amish.:eek:
     
  19. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    well, are those photographed "true" Amish? would a Burka satisfy the photo I.D requirements?
     
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    So you want to be a Mennonite with looser standards?
     
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    I can see the need to protect his religious beliefs, even if most Amish don't have a problem being photographed, but at the same time allowing people to get weapons without any proper ID runs a much higher risk than normal of having the guns end up in the hands of criminals so it risks harming other people's right to life.

    Considering we have seen with Kim Davis that your religious rights can be limited when it conflicts with another law I'd say he either needs to accept that he can't have a gun or he needs to comply with the law and get a photo ID.
     
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    sure, that might float my goat.
     
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    will them wearing a burka work? it is a photo I.D. you simply can't tell who is under the veil
     
  24. Mousse macrumors 68000

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    Well, PBS had a documentary about the Amish cleverly titled, The Amish. I'm 99.44% positive they had "true" Amish and not actor portrayals. Anyhow, there is overwhelming evidence that being photographed being against his "religious belief" is BS.

    Think about how easy it would be to make a straw purchases if the fuzz can't track it back to you? Last thing we need is an Amish gun runner.o_O
     
  25. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    question is, what makes them "true"? I am sure Christians would also like to know that bit :eek:

    an Amish gun runner would be rather fitting for these fake Amish http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/amish-mafia/
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