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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Chew Toy McCoy, Feb 17, 2017.

  1. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

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    I awoke from a nightmare where Sanders won and that monster also followed through on his campaign promises and suddenly we had a well educated and skilled populous without any associated personal debt. Even tech companies were overwhelmed with the amount of qualified American applicants.

    Glad we dodged that bullet. Scaling back the Mexicans and Muslims will be the salvation of this country and I'm sure history will see this time period as a new golden era of American exceptionalism that could never happen under the Sanders dystopia of my nightmares.
     
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    You might want to clarify your statement. Do you mean scaling back Mexicans and Muslims... or do you mean addressing illegal immigrants and screening out terrorists?

    The former statement of the two frankly sounds a lot like Germany around the later 19th century through the mid 20th century (not to invoke the hackneyed Nazi argument, but my point stands). The Nazis as you may remember cited Jews as the cause of all their country's problems.

    I think Sanders would be an awful President, but that's not saying Trump is some shining star from what I've seen. I'm all for addressing illegal immigration, deporting people with severe criminal infractions, giving a path to residency for pre-existing productive members, and solving this issue once and for all. I think it's important to have high vetting standards for all immigrants, but I think preventing radicalization young Muslims at home will give us much better mileage than some "extreme vetting" technique.

    Mexicans and Muslims are not the root of all that ails America. Scaling back these groups will create a "Golden era", "American exceptionalism", "salvation"? This is the most disgusting thing I've read here in a while.
     
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    In your dream how did Bernie convince the Universities to just give away free tuition?
     
  4. Chew Toy McCoy thread starter macrumors regular

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    We put a 5,000% tax on legal purchases of firearms and ammo to finance education. Anybody caught with illegal firearms or ammo is shot with their purchase. Better hold on to those receipts, yo.
     
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    Bernie the Socialist. What a wonderful prez he'd be:

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    What did you have for dinner ????!?
     
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    [QUOTE="Chew Toy McCoy, post: 24315965, member: 1029739
    We put a 5,000% tax on legal purchases of firearms and ammo to finance education. Anybody caught with illegal firearms or ammo is shot with their purchase. Better hold on to those receipts, yo.[/QUOTE]
    What about the shoulder thingy that goes up?

    Quote is fubar :mad:
     
  8. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    I think you're confusing socialism with oligarchy. You know, like the oligarchy that poisons people in Flint Michigan. if you can't recall, let me refresh your memory of what parts of the US are like:

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  9. Chew Toy McCoy thread starter macrumors regular

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    Actually I think he’s also confusing things with global capitalism. At least if you are going by his photo evidence.
    --- Post Merged, Feb 17, 2017 ---

    It might be the fact I forgot to blow out my Yankee candle when I went to bed. I’ll try it again and report back.
     
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    No. I'm talking about Socialism, y'know, the Killer of Venezuela.

    Do you even know what "oligarchy' means? I ask because your example doesn't make sense in context.
     
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    Same way all socialist countries force others to give "free stuff" by gun point.
     
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    I find the splenetic tone of the responses to your dream - sorry nightmare - sorry, post - rather revealing.

    And it tells me exactly what I have long suspected, namely that Bernie Sanders wouldn't have had a proverbial snowball's chance in hell of winning the presidential election - not in a country with the political centre of gravity of the US.

    However, I have had similar dreams, too..........one of which was that John Smith didn't die in 1994.
     
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    We should be more like those cool kids, Venezuela and Cuba!
     
  14. Zenithal macrumors 603

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    I've said this before, I'm all for legalizing illegals who contribute to society. Such as working farm fields. Not criminals. I don't think people in this country understand how crucial cheap farm labor is. The use of immigrants spans back to the late 1800s, around the time after the '49 goldrush.
     
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    Well, the social democratic societies of Norway and Sweden are more what I had in mind, but never let blind prejudice and unlettered bile get in the way of articulating your political perspectives.

    Nevertheless, I always find it amusing when Americans write about what they think is socialism, or communism, let alone social democracy on these threads; their profound ignorance of - stoutly buttressed by an equally uninformed but no less vehement loathing - what the political perspective of those on the left actually stands for, is always fun to read.
     
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    lol what?
     
  17. Zenithal macrumors 603

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    Having experienced a short amount of communism, it's nothing like the west makes it out to be. It was rather good for people, even if rights were limited. Personally, I think the Nordic countries are doing it right by their people. Never understood why fellow Americans think we're always doing the best for our people. We spend far more money and are in worse shape.
     
  18. Chew Toy McCoy thread starter macrumors regular

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    I think the people against any form of socialism are proof of what negative ******s Americans have become. Instead of seeing what great things the richest country on the planet and in history could do for its own people, they’ll scour for every worst case existing scenario in the world and say the entire system will be nothing but that.
     
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    and here a few Commies expressing how happy they are about it:

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    and here's how the same Commies awarded their beloved leaders, once they found the courage and strength to express their love:

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    ( I won't post a picture of the result of this meetings)
     
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    So my answer was correct, but not the facts you wanted. Leftists and their preference for alternate facts never ceases to amaze me.
     
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    Actually, your answer took the arcane branch of knowledge known as political illiteracy to a whole new hitherto undiscovered dimension, one never scaled before.

    I'm impressed.
     
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    Oh, you mean like the inner city riots, anti-capitalism marches, and even veteran's marches in the US? Yessiree, they only happen in socialist countries. :rolleyes:
     
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    Don't even try to put them at the same level... marches, and some turmoil is one thing.

    Purges, 55 million death in the name of an economic theory in four years (in a single country), and various government revolts/coups are a whole different game.
     
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    You have it all wrong americans and american government are all for socialism when it is giving away from the millions to the few. Look at TARP the greatest socialistic give away in history.

    Never have so few gained so much from so many. Free bail out, no jail time, and massive bonus for tanking the economy. And to prove we loved it so much and want to do it again, we de-regulate. Trust your banker, and investment brokers, what could go wrong.
     
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    I think you might wish to add a sentence or two explaining the context of these images; not everyone reads Russian, and I doubt the US educational system has devoted much time or attention to the Show Trials.

    However, on Romania, and their curious tradition of producing unusual leaders with flecked with a quality of the Baroque in terms of extravagance and oppression both, I think it only fair to point out that this did not start with the Ceausescu family, and - even among communists - Romania was not ever considered remotely a typical regime.

    And, as for the topic of "awarding their beloved leaders" the fate dealt to the Ceausescus, in the decades since then, I have worked with Romanian police officers, army officers, intelligence officers, and diplomats - some who have held very senior positions, - a surprising number of whom have - privately and quietly - expressed regret to me for the manner of the death of the Ceausescus, explaining that the Ceausescus should have been put on trial - properly - in a proper legal system governed by the rule of law, and that while they needed to be removed from power, to do so in such a way did little credit to Romania, or Romania's reputation.
     

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