An eye for an eye...

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Cave Man, Dec 14, 2008.

  1. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    Got to love the old testament way of dealing with crime. Lucky for us Jesus replaced the old law.
     
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  3. rendezvouscp macrumors 68000

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    It sounds to me like she wanted justice, not revenge. She says that she doesn’t want him to become disfigured ("because that would be [a] savage, barbaric act"), but just to be blinded (which sounds more than fair).
     
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    You are aware that you country still puts it's own citizens to death, aren't you? Also Barbaric, don't you think?

    This punishment is tame by Iranian standards and, unlike most of their punishments, can at least be argued as justice.
     
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    Oh, really?

    Link

    Or do you use a "different" bible?
     
  8. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    Sssssssssh.

    ;)
     
  9. abijnk macrumors 68040

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    It might appear in the Christian bible, but that's not what's going on here.

    From the first sentence in the link:
    So yes, they are technically using a "different bible." ;) (I know that's not 100% accurate, just saying...)
     
  10. arkitect macrumors 601

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    Sweetums, Did you even read what I wrote?
    ;)
    I was refering to this post by iMac-Knight where he claimed "an eye for an eye" has nothing to do with the bible… I showed that yes, in fact it does.

    And I think the word you are looking for is Qur’an.
     
  11. adroit macrumors 6502

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    I'm curious what your position on this subject was on Sept 12 2001
     
  12. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    A better solution is to have this fool have to support this person the rest of his life, along with prison time and maybe a asskicking or two.
     
  13. skunk macrumors G4

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    How would that improve things?
     
  14. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    There is no justice in retribution.

    I wish I could say we are better in absolute terms, but we still like to kill our fellow man in this country.
     
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    I'm not sure what the Old Testament has to do with this due to the fact that Iran is based in Islamic Law. The Bible, and Qur'an share the book of Genesis and no others if I'm not mistaken. The sermon on the Mount told Christians to "turn the other cheek" when wronged by someone instead of holding true to lex talionis, emphasizing forgiveness. Islamic law is founded on the Qur'an and the Sunnah.
     
  16. skunk macrumors G4

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    What a remarkable coincidence then, that both Islamic and Mosaic law should call for "an eye for an eye".
     
  17. abijnk macrumors 68040

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    Did you read what iMac-Knight said? He didn't say it isn't in the bible, he said the bible is not behind this.

    And I am not your "Sweetums" :rolleyes:
     
  18. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    You're missing the whole point. The Bible is the Old and New Testaments. The idea "an eye for an eye" does not come from the Bible, as the New Testament quite clearly states that Jesus fulfilled and replaced the law and that you now should "turn the other cheek."

    This retribution is related to and partly derived from Mosaic law, but the Bible does not promote Mosaic Law since the coming of Jesus, which was the point of Don't Hurt Me's post.
     
  19. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    That would be the Christian Bible. The Jewish Bible doesn't contain Jesus' said fulfillment.
     
  20. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    True, but the name "Bible" really is only correct when talking about the Christian Bible. The correct term is "Tanakh" or "Masoretic Text." What you said is pretty akin to saying, "The Muslim Bible doesn't contain Jesus' fulfillment." The only difference is that referring to the Tanakh as the "Jewish Bible" is more common than referring to the Koran as the "Muslim Bible" because we grew up in a Christian environment where "bible" = religious book. However, "The Bible" is the Christian Bible.

    EDIT: Well, I did some more research. The term "Jewish Bible" is debatable.
     
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    Yes, yes it is...but you act as though the US governments actions(which I disagree with) somehow make it ok to do this....two rights make a wrong now?
     
  22. skunk macrumors G4

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    I believe the point was about the hypocrisy, not the justification.
     
  23. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    well, one can be a hypocrite and still be right
     
  24. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    Yes, but it doesn't solve the problem of being wrong about the first issue.

    Iran is wrong to allow this sentence as much as the US and the 38 states which practice the death penalty are wrong to use it.

    Us pointing to the Iranians from our high horse only magnifies our own stupidity.
     

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